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Danny2007
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Post Number: 234
Registered: 12-2007


Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 05:49 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Full article @ the Irish Times:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0202/1232923381440.html

Will this impact the Official Languages Act? People need to make more use of the Irish language resources available!

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The Irish Times asked Government departments for information on the web traffic through their sites in both English and Irish. In general, use of the Irish sites, where this could be established, was less than 0.5 per cent.



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The Department of Enterprise, which has a single Irish-language page but no full Irish site, showed the lowest level of activity in the first language, relative to English. While the English site claimed 782,000 unique users last year, the Irish-language page had just 272 users.

The Department of the Environment site had 454,000 unique users, but only 1,600 for the Irish language version. The Department of Justice website had 333,000 unique users in English and 11,000 for the Irish version.

The Revenue Commissioners site recorded 18,000,000 hits but only 88,000 for its Irish pages.[0.49%]



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Aonghus
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Post Number: 8036
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 06:05 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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The Department of Enterprise, which has a single Irish-language page but no full Irish site, showed the lowest level of activity in the first language, relative to English



That basically sums it up. The same is more or less true of all sites - information in Irish, when available, is less comprehensive, less up to date, and sometimes just plain wrong. So why should anbody bother?

If the information is of good quality, it gets used. Example: The County Council Offices in Donegal - once they got their act together, the offic in An Clochán Liath got a big jump in people doing their business through Irish.

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Danny2007
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Post Number: 235
Registered: 12-2007


Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 06:35 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

We were just discussing this on Politics.ie

People aren't going to bother to wade through all sorts of pages to find the Irish material. Or jump through hoops only to find a single page in Irish or a mishmash of languages.

Example:
http://www.education.ie/home/home.jsp?pcategory=10900&ecategory=19304&language=G A

Pathetic!

At the same time, the numbers for Departments with complete sites in Irish are very low too.

Donegal CCO was mentioned too.
http://www.politics.ie/media/42089-less-than-0-5-traffic-state-websites-through- irish.html

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 8037
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 09:40 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Also, the 0.5 % refers to "page impressions"

That does not mean 0.5 % of visitors.

It probably includes webcrawlers, google etc.

I could go on ... this is yet another non story. Probably the opening shots in yet another "there is a recession so let's cut spending on Irish" discussion.

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Ardri
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 01:06 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Meh it shows to me that people are not interested in using government facilities through Irish.

Orddan ocus tocad duit!

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Ormondo
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Post Number: 201
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 02:22 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I think the websites could be improved.

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"there is a recession so let's cut spending on Irish"



...and it could, I fear, become an onslaught, albeit with the usual, tiresomely predictable arguments.

Irish is recognized as a soft target; the same people who try at every turn to have Irish effectively abolished would not dare to target spending on the fine arts, libraries, museums etc. which are (unfortunately) most definitely not sustainable on the strength of the economical viability or utility argument. In the latter case the "courageous", "common-sense" abolitionists would not escape being branded as philistines as easily as they do when they "bravely" and "in-the-common-good" bash Irish.

One hope against a possible stampede-of-the-philistines is that the leaders of all the main parties are very proficient in Irish (which, like every other worthwhile achievement, requires dedication and diligence) so they are unlikely to cave in to the politico-moron category of people clamouring for retrenchment to elemental human animal needs (and the Premiership) with Irish, as ever, the first scape-goat.

Is geal leis an bhfiach dubh a ghearrcach féin.

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 8040
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 03:23 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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Meh it shows to me that people are not interested in using government facilities through Irish.



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