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Skii30
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 04:12 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá súil agam gur bhain tú taitneamh as an píosa seo

Go raibh maith agat

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Abigail
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 04:19 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"as an bpíosa seo" nó "as an phíosa seo"

Tá sé i gceart seachas é sin.

Tá fáilte roimh chuile cheartú!

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Skii30
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 04:44 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith agat

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Skii30
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Post Number: 104
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 01:33 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I'm trying to say the following
The children have to say true or false after every sentence. Is the sentence below correct? Go raibh maith agat

Caithfidh na páistí “fíor nó bréagach” a insint tar éis gach abairte

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Taidhgín
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 02:21 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Caithfidh na páistí “fíor nó bréagach” a rá tar éis gach abairte.

a rá (le ...) = to say (to ...)
a insint (do ...) = to tell (to ...)

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Breandán
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Post Number: 106
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 02:49 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A point of punctuation:

Caithfidh na páistí “fíor" nó "bréagach” a rá tar éis gach abairte.


That is, the children are to say either "fíor" OR "bréagach” after each sentence, not the phrase “fíor nó bréagach”. Is that not correct?

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Skii30
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 06:06 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Correct Breandan

Go raibh maith agat

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Skii30
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Post Number: 106
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Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 07:15 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

One quick question about these two sentences. Is No. 1 correct ( ina bhfuil)?.
Which question is correct in No. 2.
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1. Cén áit ina bhfuil sé ag cur sneachta?
Tá sé ag cur sneachta san iarthar.


2. Cén sórt aimsire atá ann sa tuaisceart? nó Cén sórt aimsire atá sa tuaisceart?

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 01:53 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I'd say "Cén áit a bhfuil sé ag cur sneachta?"

And "Cén sórt aimsire atá sa tuaisceart".

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 03:29 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Aontaímse leis sin.

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Skii30
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Post Number: 107
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 05:50 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith agat.

Is this sentence correct.

Táim ag caint faoi Napoleon. Cén t-ábhar atá i gceist?
[ Stair]

Also how do you pronoune 'Creideamh". Is it "Kray-jif"?

Go riabh maith agat

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Skii30
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Post Number: 108
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 06:30 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Úsáideann sí an chlog chun t-am a mhúineadh

Is this sentence correct?. She uses a clock to teach time.
Go raibh maith agat.

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Skii30
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Post Number: 109
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 06:49 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Osclaíonn na páistí a leabhair ar leathanach céad a naoi déag. Caithfidh siad na pictiúir a mheaitseáil leis na uimhreacha ceart. Chomh maith le sin caithfidh siad na hábhar ceart a mheaitseáil le pictiúr ceart.

Just wondering if the grammer is correct in the above sentences. Go raibh maith agat.

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Trigger
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 07:01 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

Also how do you pronoune 'Creideamh". Is it "Kray-jif"?



I pronounce it like ''KRED-YOO'' more or less.

Gaeilge go deo!

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Breandán
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 12-2008


Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 07:27 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

Úsáideann sí an chlog chun t-am a mhúineadh



I think that needs to be either:

Úsáideann sí clog chun am a mhúineadh.

or

Úsáideann sí clog chun an t-am a mhúineadh.

But if you want to say "the clock", it will be an clog because clock is masculine.

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Breandán
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Post Number: 110
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 07:35 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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I pronounce it like ''KRED-YOO'' more or less.



That sounds better to me, too, Trigger.

creideamh /k'r'ed'ə(w)/ (kiʒedjuw)

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Trigger
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 07:44 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

But outside of Donegal and Mayo, I don't think it would be prononced like that.

Gaeilge go deo!

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Bearn
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 08:00 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In Conamara I would have thought the final -mh (broad) is like a ú, since Western Irish can keep the endings -adh and -amh serpate, but in parts of Mayo, and in (all of?) Donegal, they just have one morpheme there

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Breandán
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Post Number: 111
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 08:07 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

leathanach céad a naoi déag >> leathanach céad is a naoi déag (with is between céad and the rest of the number.)

leis na uimhreacha ceart >> leis na huimhreacha cearta (I think?)

na hábhar ceart a mheaitseáil le pictiúr ceart >>an ábhar ceart a mheaitseáil leis an bpictiúr ceart or na hábhair chearta a mheaitseáil leis na pictiúir chearta (Probably)

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Breandán
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Post Number: 112
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 08:17 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A Bhirn, Ó Siadhail gives creideamh /k'r'ed'ə/ in Learning Irish (Conamara/Cois Fhairrge) , but it sounds more like /k'r'ed'u:/ on the tapes, as you say, which is why I put the /(w)/ on the end above.

-adh in nouns is usually /-ə/ in Cois Fhairrge. Past autonomous -adh is /-u:/.

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 12:53 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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na hábhar ceart a mheaitseáil le pictiúr ceart >>an ábhar ceart a mheaitseáil leis an bpictiúr ceart or na hábhair chearta a mheaitseáil leis na pictiúir chearta (Probably)



An t-ábhar ceart... (ábhar is masculine)

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Breandán
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 10:06 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Thanks, Lughaidh. I missed that.

na hábhar ceart a mheaitseáil le pictiúr ceart >>an t-ábhar ceart a mheaitseáil leis an bpictiúr ceart or na hábhair chearta a mheaitseáil leis na pictiúir chearta

Hope that's correct, now.

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Bearn
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Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 11:45 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"-adh in nouns is usually /-ə/ in Cois Fhairrge. Past autonomous -adh is /-u:/."

Is fearr liom an t-uvular fricative anseo!

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Breandán
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Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 01:47 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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"-adh in nouns is usually /-ə/ in Cois Fhairrge. Past autonomous -adh is /-u:/."

Is fearr liom an t-uvular fricative anseo!



That would be a "historical" pronunciation, a Bhirn. How far back would you like to turn the clock?

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Bearn
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Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 03:24 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

How so?

Oh I see, you are thinking I mean the broad gh to replace the dh. Sorry, I did not mean that, I meant for the conditional, I prefer for example, 'bheadh sé' as 'veit se' and the word alone as 'bheach' not with a final ú.

Of course, that is not relevant to the topic. Dunno why I said it...

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Breandán
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Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 04:21 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ah, I see what you meant... and why you said it - I've left a bit out again, haven't I!

Of course, -adh for the conditional is usually /-əx/ (and /-ət/ before , , etc.) as you have pointed out.

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Skii30
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Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 04:14 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith agaibh

Táim ag caint faoi Napoleon. Cén t-ábhar atá i gceist?
[ Stair]
Is this sentence correct? Go raibh maith agat?

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 06:50 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Yes, it is right.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Skii30
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 02:50 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Just wondering if these sentences are correct? Go raibh maith agat

1. Níl ceadaithe fón póca ar scoil.
2. Níl ceadaithe coganta guma ar scoil.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 03:02 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Níl fón póca ceadaithe ar scoil.
Níl guma coganta ceadaithe ar scoil.

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 03:34 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I'd say :

Tá cosc ar na fóin phóca sa scoil.
Níl cead guma a chogaint sa scoil.


Níl fón póca ceadaithe = A cellular phone is not allowed (...which one?).

When you're talking about things in general, normally in Irish you use the article, unlike English.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Aonghus
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 04:44 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Is fearr do leagan ceart go leor, ach níor theastaigh uaim an abairt a athrú ó bhonn.

Níl mé cinnte gur gá an alt sa chás seo áfach.



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