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Jeannette
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 03:13 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

This from p 96 Buntús Cainte...


How do you pronunce the following (prefer Munster if applicable)

"Caithfidh siad an t-airgead a fháil."

Is it "cafee may (u) tear-guht)(a) awl?
..with the parenthesized letters slurred over?

GMA

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 2567
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 06:30 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Munster would have:

KAH-huh shee-ud uh TAH-rig-yud (uh) AWL

(As if written "Caithe siad a' t-airigead (a) áil")

Or they'd say "Caithfid an t-airgead a fháil"
Caithfid is there "CAH-hidd"

The -f- of "caithfid(h)" is pronounced as an h in this form.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 03:51 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

The pronunciation you have given seems to be for caithfidh mé and not caithfid said, but anyway, the f is pronounced h.

Caithfid: kaahi
Siad: shee-ad
an: un
t-airgead: tarrigyad
a fháil: aahl

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 2569
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Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 06:00 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

caithfid is KAH-hidd.
caithfidh siad is KAH-huh shee-ud.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Jeannette
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Post Number: 24
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 04:45 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Grma, A Lughaidh agus A UG..
Very helpful, and is sea, I DID forget and mix up/forgot to put in "mé" agus "siad".... AND somewhere I have the tapes for that page of Buntús Cainte...but I can't find them. (:)
I guess the thing that struck me the most was the pron. of the addition of the "y" sound in "TAH-rig-yud" agus "tarrigyad". It appears that I was trying to be so smart and vocalize the pphrase so fast as probably a native speaker would do that I completely forgot to include that "Y"
Anyway...thanks.

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Bearn
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Post Number: 912
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 06:42 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Where is the y sound? I don't hear one

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 2578
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 07:33 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I used it to show that the g was slender. I dunno how to transcribe it in another way...

Learn Irish pronunciation here: http://loig.cheveau.ifrance.com/irish/irishsounds/irishsounds.html & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Bearn
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Post Number: 913
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Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 09:42 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I did not mean you but the other poster; just so long as they know the difference themselves

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Jeannette
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A Bearn.....yes I understood that ....thanks



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