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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2008 (September-October) » Archive through October 17, 2008 » Etymology of the word "ceacht" « Previous Next »

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Focalist
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 12:19 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I have been trying (for so long now that I've even forgotten why exactly..!) to find out the etymology of the word "ceacht" (lesson) -- ach ní raibh an t-ádh orm. Can anyone help?

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James_murphy
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 12:40 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I think it stems from the Latin 'praeceptus' - 'proiceapt' > 'proiceacht' > 'ceacht'.

Séamus Ó Murchadha

Go mBeannuighe Dia Éire Naomhtha!

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Focalist
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 01:49 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A Shéamuis, you're amazing. You wouldn't believe how long I've been trying to get someone to give me a serious answer to this question -- and yours convinces me!

All I have to do now is remember why I wanted to know this... Go raibh míle míle maith agat!

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Dennis
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 02:30 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

You are very much on the right track. But "ceacht" actually comes directly from Old Irish "aiccecht" (sometimes written "aiccept") from Latin "acceptum".

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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James_murphy
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 07:29 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Did the Irish derivitaves of 'acceptum' and 'praeceptus' become confused?

Séamus Ó Murchadha

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Dennis
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 08:32 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I don't think so. Acceptum = recipe; close enough to a lesson, I guess.

Dála an scéal, is dócha gur chuala tú tagairt don leabhar Auraicept na nÉces? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auraicept

Séard atá san fhocal "auraicept" ("airaiccecht" in DIL) ná an réimír air- móide aiccecht. "Primer" nó "first instruction" an chiall atá leis.

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Focalist
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Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 10:19 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A mountain of thanks to you too, Dennis. The scholars are out in force today!



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