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Antaine
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Post Number: 1312
Registered: 10-2004


Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 08:08 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

What is the difference between oscailte and ar oscailt? The sense I get is that, during business hours, a shop is ar oscailt, but the window in that shop is oscailte (?)

is there an equivalent distinction drawn with dúnta (there doesn't seem to be, that I have found)?

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 7525
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 06:08 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I'm not sure there is a clear distinction.

It's an interesting question.

I think you could say
a) Tá an siopa oscailte idir a naoi agus a cúig
or
b) Tá an siopa ar oscailt idir a naoi agus a cúig

I think I'd prefer b) but I don't know why.


oscailte [aidiacht den tríú díochlaonadh]
ar oscailt, ar leathadh; gan cheist gan cheilt (dúirt sé amach go hoscailte é).

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Bearn
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Post Number: 672
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Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 07:02 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Tá an scannán ar siúl idir a naoi agus a deich "

Maybe it is more natural as it is in a current state of openness, whereas a verbal adjective is more the state that has come from a transformation and is finished -in that sense the shop is not 'opened' but is 'open' between the stated hours

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Antaine
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Post Number: 1313
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Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 11:12 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

yeah...that's what I meant...it's also a figurative "open"...a shop can be "open" on a hot day and yet have all the doors and windows closed to keep in the air conditioning...



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