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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2008 (September-October) » Archive through September 03, 2008 » An Gaeltacht (Baile Átha Cliath) ? « Previous Next »

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PádraigÓClúmháin (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 03:59 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Hi,

I have been thinking about this for quite some time as to why Dublin doesn't have its own Gaeltacht.

A nucleus for the language could be located in the city or its environs.

This could be a location for native language only communication.

All thoughts are welcome.

Cén fáth? Cén fáth nach?

Fear an Galltacht

Hatred corrodes the vessel in which it is stored. (Translation of a Chinese proverb)

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Bearn
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Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 10:56 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Cén fáth nach? "

?

sold!

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Smac_muirí
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 05:52 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Is tú go díreach an fear a bhí uainn.
An fear ceart san áit cheart ag an am ceart.
Sílim nach bhfuil duine níos fearr ar an saol leis an nGaeltacht san a bhunú ná tú féin a Phádraig.

B'fhéidir go ndéanfaidh tú é chomh maith.

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Buachaill_rua
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 07:17 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ive been thinking about this for some time. I think theres plenty of space around North County Dublin for a Gaeltacht area to be established.
I bet the locals would rather that than a superdump going in beside them or a super prison!
Dublin schools could bring students there on day trips making immersion in the language more easily accesible to people on the East Coast.

(Im planning on winning the Euromillions when it hits 150million next time and I'll get a start on the project then)

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PádraigÓClúmháin (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 05:19 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Cén fáth nach dhéanfaidh? (?) I guess what i'm getting at is the philosophical conundrum of "why? why not?" in regards to the language. An Gaeilge is a work in progress though I'll get there some day. Slán go fóill.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 08:30 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

http://www.bailegaelach.com/

Táthar ag obair air, ach is obair sách mall atá ann. Ní leor grá don Ghaeilge chun pobal a bhunú agus a bhuanú.

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Seimi
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 09:33 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dá déanfá Gaelthacht i mBÁC beadh lá nua den theanga.
Beidh alán rudai le fáill as an smaoineamh seo.
Is forbart an oiriúnach é, mar tá mean ag teastail ó Gaeil na Cathaireacha chun Gaelainn a usáid go tráthrialta, in aimsir nádúrtha. Agus go mór mhór in áit a bhfuil cóngaracht le áit na hoibre.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:44 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Bainidh triail as i 1924 agus theip air.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/332084

Níl fágtha ach an ainm.

Bhí baint ag Caitlín Maude le hiarracht eile san 1960í.

Tá lucht Baile ag iarraidh foghlaim as na teipeanna sin. D'fhreastal mé féin ar cruinniú taighde s'acu.

Beidh le feiscint.

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Guevara
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 12:36 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Bunaíodh Gaeltacht ar Bhóthar Seoige i mBéal Feirste atá fós beo beathach ach b'fhéidir gur rud osnádúrtha a tharla ann ar bealach -sé sin tuismitheoirí ar aon intinn chun Gaeilgeoirí eile a phósadh agus teaghlaigh a thógaint le Ghaeilge ag an am chéana. Ba chóir go mbeidh sé mar phríomhchuspóir Gaeltacht a bhunú i mBÁC fiú amháin eastát títhíochta 20 tigh nó mar sin mar atá i mBéal Feirste agus an méid sin daoine i BÁC.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 03:37 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Bhí agus tá níos mó i gcoitinne ag muinteoir Bóthar Seoighe ná an Ghaeilge amháin.

Dhá rud atá de dhíth, dar liom, i nGaeltacht nua ar bith:

1) Fostaíocht
2) Fís coiteann

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Trigger
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 11:41 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Well there should be a Gaeltacht Quarter in Dublin anyway, get a little part of the city put Conradh na Gaeilge, Irish book shop, Irish restaurant/cafe, Irish course like Oideas Gael, a Gaelscoil, Irish language radio station, mass service in Irish, a place to practise Irish, Irish nursery for young children where they will pick up Irish. Volia there will be a Dublin Gaeltacht quarter!

If I won the lottery that is what I would do.

(Message edited by Trigger on August 22, 2008)

gaeilgeoir.blogspot.com

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Aonghus
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Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 04:21 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá an chuid is mó des na rudaí sin i lár na cathrach cheana féin:
http://www.gaelchultur.com
http://www.cnag.ie
http://www.rnl106.com/
http://www.dublindiocese.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=644&Itemid =330

agus mar sin de

Cinnte, dá mbeadh siad in aon ait amháin...ach le costas talún i mBÁC bheadh ort an Lotto a bhaint roinnt uaireanta

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Bearn
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Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 12:36 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"mass service in Irish"

Ya -getting the priorities right, I see. Personally, I would prefer some dolmens and druids


"If I won the lottery that is what I would do"

It would want to be a big lottery -a million or two goes quick in Dublin


"Conradh na Gaeilge, Oideas Gael" -they would work full time to destroy your vision, as they are inept and corrupt

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Buachaill_rua
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Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 04:11 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Conradh na Gaeilge, Oideas Gael" -they would work full time to destroy your vision, as they are inept and corrupt

What makes you say that??

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Bearn
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Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 11:42 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

For all the money collected over the years, why don't they own property in the Gaeltacht, instead of running things amateurish our of community halls etc

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Student
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 12:14 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

For all the money collected over the years, why don't they own property in the Gaeltacht, instead of running things amateurish our of community halls etc



That's a good question. The answer may lie in the ecomonics of renting versus land ownership. We may also want to take into account that their rental activities may be, for all intents and purposes, a boon to the local real-estate market.

What a complex subject. Tá me sasta gurb innealtoir mé!

FRC-GRMA

Is annamh an tseanmóir fhada nach mbíonn codladh ann.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 06:20 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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For all the money collected over the years, why don't they own property in the Gaeltacht



They do own some property.

But: Conradh na Gaeilge is a community organisation with lots of different branches all over the place. They have a building in Dublin (which they are trying to sell to buy one in a better location) and a builiding in Galway.

I doubt they actually have that much money. Or that "all that money collected over the years" wasn't spent on Irish!

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Bearn
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 09:22 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"I doubt they actually have that much money. "

Neither do I, but they are knocking about since before the State was a gossun, so they should be in better shape

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Aonghus
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 10:38 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Why, if they spent the money well?

Conradh na Gaeilge is a voluntary organisation, not an investment fund. They get some money from Foras na Gaeilge.

But for that they organise the Oireachtas, Seachtain na Gaeilge, the Bookshop, .... and lots of local events.

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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 08:42 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

What about Conradh na Gaeilge along with all the other Irish language organisations in Dublin all move into one area I suggest Clondalkin and have the Conradh na Gaeilge bar ,a bilingual restaurant, a theatre all in one area would gaelicise it.



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