buttercup = n cam an ime m1

Come here! = tar anseo!

Suigh = sit

fan = stay

Creagach = rocky

madra = dog

I found these on IrishEnglishDictionary.com and I wanted to know if they were correct or if there were other words that would more commonly be used in their places...especially the first one (buttercup; the flower).

For "buttercup", the generally reliable site <http://www.acmhainn.ie/> also gives crobh préacháin "crow's claw". Couldn't tell you which is more common.

(In áit madra déarfainn gadhar, ach seo focal na Mumhan; madra is ea an focal atá a úsáid níos coitianta ar fud Éireann.)

Tá na leagain thuas ceart ach ní miste a insin gur dhá bhláth ar leith iad cam an ime agus an crobh éin.

Molfainn socrú ar ainm Laidine an bhlátha a bheadh i gceist i dtosach agus ansan is féidir ainm amháin nó breise in aon teanga amháin a sholáthar dó. B'fhearr san ná a bheith siar is aniar idir an dá theanga.

Níor chualas 'crobh éin' á thabhairt ar cham an ime riamh agus is éagsúil lena chéile go mór iad. D'eascair an 'crobh éin' as cosúlacht síol an bhlátha áirithe sin le crobh éin (a bheadh crochta aníos ón talamh bun os cionn). 'Bird's foot trefoil' a thugtar air sa Bhéarla. Grianghraf anso den bhláth amháin: http://www.cvni.org/wildflowernursery/wildflowers/birds-foot-trefoil

An bhfuil an leabhar álainn Díolaim Luibheanna le Nicholas Williams agat, a Sheosaimh? Deir seisean gurb ionannn an "crobh préacháin" agus Ranunculus repens agus/nó Ranunculus acris. Is fiú sliocht as an leabhar a thabhairt don chomhluadar:

Cam an ime a thugtar ar na Croibh phréacháin go minic. Is dócha gur ó buttercup an Bhéarla a fuarthas an t-ainm sin. Aisteach go leor is ainm nua-aimseartha go maith buttercup sa Bhéarla. Anuas go dtí deireadh an 18ú [haois] crowfoot a thugtaí ar phlandaí an ghéinis. Aon bhunús amháin atá leis sin agus crobh préacháin ar ndóigh: is tagairt an dá ainm do chruth dhuilleoig an Fhearbáin is an Fhearbáin féir [an dá speiceas is coitianta], mar tá cosúlacht cos éin ar dhuilleoga an dá cheann.

Féach: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranunculus_repens

Hey Sieirál (Cheryl, Sherril?),

Have a look at the two URLs in the above messages and see which flower you have in mind. De réir Williams is féidir "crobh préacháin" nó "cam an ime" a thabhairt ar an dara ceann. But "crobh préacháin" seems to be the more common name. And I'm just quoting from Williams, not drawing on any personal knowledge.

BTW, céad mhéad frog atá agat? Ní thuigim "1.1.0,1.2.0, 0.0.8". ;-)

Níl a Dennis ach feicim anois gur mise a bhí ag tarraingt ainm breise isteach in iomrall thuas; a bheith ag glacadh leis an ainm 'crobh éin' in iomrall ar an gcrobh préacháin. Níor thugas 'préacháin' faoi deara. Tá eolas NWilliams an-sásúil ar fad, agus ar ndóigh, an foclóir Béarla-Gaeilge, níl locht ar bith air.

Thugainn féin 'cam an ime' ar an 'bhfearbán féir' ach bhí orm iad a dhealú lena chéile luath nó mall. D'aithneoinn i bhfad uaim anois an fearbán, ar a airde. Tá fearbán féir thart ar 12 troighe ón ríomhaire is mé ag scríobh anso. Faoi dhó nó mar san sa mbliain a bhainfidh mé féir thart timpeall an tí anseo agus déanaim an méid sin le speil. Tá an fearbán san slán go ceann tamaill eile.

Tá an fearbán "sa bhaile" sa taobh seo tíre freisin, cé nach bhfuil fáilte roimhe. Is noxious weed é dar leis an gcomhairle contae anseo: Buttercup is toxic to grazing livestock and should be removed from pastures.

http://dnr.metrokc.gov/wlr/lands/weeds/pdf/Creeping_Buttercup_FactSheet.pdf

I'm reading an Irish translation of Silas Marner by George Elliot. It contains the passage: 'Agus nuair a d'éirigh an lá fada agus an ghrian láidir agus nuair a thosaigh cama an ime ag éirí líonmhar fá na míodúin...'

I didn't understand the words 'cama an ime' and had made a note to look it up. Then I opened Sieral's message and all was revealed!

Bhuel, bhí orm "míodún" a fháil san fhoclóir anois díreach!

S'iad Ranunculis acris/ Meadow Buttercup agus Ranunculus repens / Creeping Buttercup na bláthanna coitianta a thugtar 'buttercup' orthu i mBéarla. Is é 'fearbán' an gnáth-fhocal i nGaeilge go bhfios dom.

Ranunculus aquatilis / Water crowfoot. Fásann an planda san i aibhneacha. Blancéad de thrilseáin fhada ghlaise an cuma a bhíonn air de gnáth. Sin é an crobh préacháin.

Is géineas leathan é an ranunculus lena lán bláthanna éagsula ach ní buttercups/fearbáin ach roint beag díobh.

A Dhennis,
Tá trí dheag frog agam. The numbers go Male.Female.Unsexed

Tá brón orm de an mearbhall.

I suppose Ranunculus acris is the one I was looking for. I don't find Cow's Claw a very appealing name. What is the translation of the other one I wonder? Crooked Butter?

Fáilte romhat, a hAntain! :)

The reason for me wanting to know the word for buttercup is that it is used as a pet name in Béarla. I just wanted to know a pretty translation for it into Gaeilge.

Go raibh maith agaibh an uile!

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What is the translation of the other one I wonder? Crooked Butter?

More like "inclined/bowed one of butter"

Go raibh maith agat, a hAonghus!

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More like "inclined/bowed one of butter

This sounds better than "crooked".

Note also that "fearbán" is a very common name for Ranunculus repens, the creeping buttercup that is "ar fud na háite" around here, and probably where you are, too. It looks like a compound of "fear" (man) + "bán" (fair, blond), but is actually a diminutive of "fearb" (welt, weal)... although there was also a mythological cow named "Fearb". Go figure.

Go raibh maith agat as na huimhreacha a mhíniú dom. Is maith liom froganna!

Is maith liom mo fhroganna! :) Tá iad ainmhí iontach!

Is "fearbán" é go maith, freisin. Go raibh maith agat, a Dhennis.

A Dhennis, an tú muinteoir Rúisis?
( I don't know if I did that question right. I'm not too good at the "is" phrases yet). Gabh mo leisceal.

(Message edited by Sieirál on August 15, 2008)

(Message edited by Sieirál on August 15, 2008)

A Dhennis, an muinteoir Rúisise tú

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Taithí a níos máistreacht, Sieirál, ná bí leithscéalach.

(NB níos = déanann in this case)

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Tá iad ainmhí iontach!

Is ainmhithe iontacha iad, go dearfa.

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A Dhennis, an tú muinteoir Rúisis?

Ní múinteoir Rúisise mé. Níl mórán Rúisise agam.

Maidir leis an chuid eile de do cheist,

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Come here! = tar anseo!

Suigh = sit

fan = stay

Creagach = rocky

madra = dog

Níl faic cearr leo sin.
I assume "suigh" "sit" is meant to be the imperative command to a madra, and fan also?

There are synonyms for madra and creagach also, of course.

creagach [aidiacht den chéad díochlaonadh]
clochach, carraigeach, creagánta.

To me creagach suggests not just rocky but uneven, rough, hard to walk on.

Tá brón orm, a Dhennis. I got you mixed up with someone else. :)
Go raibh maith agat, for the corrections. :)