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James_murphy
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 11-2005


Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 10:13 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

1) Is the form of the verb used after 'so-', 'do-' & 'in-' the past participle or the genitive of the verbal noun?
In the few verbs where there's a difference I've seen both: 'Do-fheicthe' and 'Do-fheicsiona' (Dinneen).

2) Just a though. Perhaps it would be a good idea if a hyphen was used to connect all compound prepositions: i-dtaobh, ar-son, tar-éis etc. Many times I've had to make sure if what I'm reading is to be taken literally as a preposition + noun or is a compound preposition.

Séamus Ó Murchadha

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Dennis
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Post Number: 4064
Registered: 02-2005


Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 12:44 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

Is the form of the verb used after 'so-', 'do-' & 'in-' the past participle or the genitive of the verbal noun?

An chéad cheann de ghnáth, ach:

An réimír so- + aidiacht bhriathartha is foirm don rangabháil seo go hiondúil. [...] Corruair bíonn foirm nach foirm aidiachta briathartha nasctha le so-. Foirm ghinideach an ainm bhriathartha nó an ainmfhocail a bhíonn ann: sofhála, soghabhála, so-imeachta, soranna (ranna = seachfhoirm ghinideach ar roinn), sotheagaisc. -GGBC

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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James_murphy
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Post Number: 151
Registered: 11-2005


Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 09:50 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith agat, a Dhennis.
I take it from that that both forms are still used.

Séamus Ó Murchadha

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Dennis
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Post Number: 4066
Registered: 02-2005


Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:40 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I think only the first one (an aidiacht bhriathartha) is productive, however.

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."




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