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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2008 (May - June) » Archive through May 30, 2008 » Etemology of Tara « Previous Next »

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Bearn
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Post Number: 576
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 10:46 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Can anyone explain the history of this word?

sold!

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Dennis
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Post Number: 3878
Registered: 02-2005


Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 11:51 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tháinig an leagan Béarla sin ón nginideach "Teamhrach" den logainm "Temhair". De réir Shanas Chormaic, is ionann "temair" agus "cech locc as mbí aurgnam déicsi itir mag 7 tech, ut dicitur temair na túaithe 7 temair in tighe". An bhfuil aistriúchán uait? Do do ghriogadh-sa atá mé anois!

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Aonghus
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Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 06:43 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

áit a mbíonn léargas ar an má nó an teach

(Admhaím go bhfuair mé cabhair ó alt le Daithí Ó hÓgain san Timire...)

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Dennis
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Post Number: 3879
Registered: 02-2005


Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 02:52 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Radharc farsaing ar an tír máguaird atá i gceist, gan dabht, de réir Chormaic. Chuir mé an cheist faoi bhráid an chomhluadair ag OIL anois díreach, féachaint an bhfuil níos mó le rá acu faoin tsanaseolaíocht seo.

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Dennis
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Post Number: 3881
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Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 03:08 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

An freagra a fuair mé ó David Stifter ag Uni Wien:

"Temair" looks pretty un-IE and I think it is one of the names that is a
serious candidate for a pre-IE survivor in Ireland, given the mythological
significance of the place (or the places - AFAIR there was more than one
Temair). I am not sure if we can trust Cormac's statement about the
original meaning of the word. It may be pure speculation on his side, but
then who knows what sources he had access to.

BTW, the earliest gen. of "Temair" was "Temro", but it was shifted from
the i-stems to the k-stems under the pretty obvious influence of "cathair,
cathrach".

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Rg_cuan
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Post Number: 310
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 12:12 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I think it is one of the names that is a
serious candidate for a pre-IE survivor in Ireland


Glacaim leis go bhfuil cuid mhór acu seo ann. An bhfuil aon fhoinse ag duine ar bith nó an bhfuil aon alt cuimsitheach srl. in iris ar bith faoin ábhar seo?

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Dennis
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Post Number: 3888
Registered: 02-2005


Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 01:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"What Language was Spoken in Ireland before Irish?" le Gearóid Mac Eoin,
in Hildegard L.C. Tristram (ed.), The Celtic Languages in Contact, Papers
from the Workshop within the Framework of the XIII International Congress of
Celtic Studies
, Bonn, 26-27 July 2007, Potsdam University Press.

Tá sé ar fáil ar líne ag:

http://pub.ub.uni-potsdam.de/volltexte/2007/1568/

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Dennis
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Post Number: 3890
Registered: 02-2005


Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 02:03 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dála an scéil, tá an cheist á plé faoi láthair ar Old-Irish-L. Is féidir na teachtaireachtaí a léamh sa chartlann anseo:

https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=OLD-IRISH-L

(On-going discussion of the etymology of "Tara" there.)

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Rg_cuan
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Post Number: 311
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 06:56 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith agat as sin a Dennis.

Mar gheall ar an cheangal DNA, sílim féin go bhfuil féidearthacht láidir ann go raibh teanga cosúil leis an Bhascais á labhairt anseo in Éirinn am éigin, ach cá bhfios?!

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Dennis
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Post Number: 3891
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Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 12:20 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ar léigh tú Saxons, Vikings, and Celts le Bryan Sykes, a Airdí?

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."




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