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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2008 (May - June) » Archive through May 30, 2008 » Do noun + preposition phrases in Irish have gender « Previous Next »

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Bearn
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Post Number: 559
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 12:06 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

WinGleacht gives entries such as gabháil ar and gabháil ag as having gender (all feminine).

Question:

do they really have gender?

is the gender from the verbal nouns?

are they feminine due to a sense of abstractness?

sold!

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Lars
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Post Number: 242
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 01:54 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Gabháil is a feminine noun because of its suffix -áil.
Every Irish noun has a gender.

Lars

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Mbm
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 01-2006


Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 03:47 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Yes, verbal nouns do have gender, just like all other nouns. And the verbal noun "gabháil" is feminine.

I've just looked up "gahbáil ar" and "gabháil ag" in WinGléacht and I have to say the way the entries are presented is indeed kind of confusing: it would have you believe that the whole phrase has gender, but that is nonsense, of course. Only the verbal noun has gender, not the whole phrase.

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