An-deas! Agus is féidir dul caol díreach chuig:

http://www.transparent.com/wotd/today/irish.htm

Tá cara liom a bhaineann úsáid as an URL seo mar leathanach tosaithe ar a ríomhaire. (She uses it as the start-up page on her browser.)

Beidh ceann eile ag teacht ar ball:

http://talkirish.com/community/word-a-day.aspx

Is dea-scéal é sin!

Maidir le Transparent agus an focal atá acu inniu (19 Aibreán), tá fadhb ann.

The voice says "An mbeidh sé ag báisteach inniu?" Good Irish, well spoken.

The sentence that is written, however, is "An bhfuil sé le chur báisteach inniu?", which is a complete mess grammatically.

Mo náire iad.

Chonaic mé aon duine amháin ar an leathanach seo ar Facebook!

(Message edited by Bearn on April 20, 2008)

The sentence that is written, however, is "An bhfuil sé le chur báisteach inniu?", which is a complete mess grammatically.

Their software package "Irish NOW!" is a bit dodgy in places as well.

I haven't seen their BYKI (Before You Know It) Irish package yet, though. Anyone here that's tried it?

Today's word on Transparent: clár

Deir an fear: Cá ngeobhaidh mé amchlár?

An leagan scríofa: Cá gheobhaidh mé amchlár?

Quiz: Cé acu ceann atá ceart?

Leid: Consider their track record!

Freagra(sílim): Cá bhfaighidh mé amchlár?

Is tusa an cainteoir líofa a scríobhann chugainn ó am go ham, mura bhfuil dul amú orm. Nár mhaith leat thú féin a chur in aithne dúinn? Nó "ainm pinn" seasmhach a chur ort féin?

Is foghlaimeoir amháin mé ach thaitníonn do cheist liom thar cionn.

Gabh mo leithscéal ....thaitin do cheist liom thar cionn.

Tá áthas orm gur thaitin. Seo quiz beag eile duit:

Is foghlaimeoir amháin mé.

This means:

1. I am just a learner.

2. I am one learner.

3. I am the same learner.

Sílim gurb é sin "I am just a learner" é, ach aithním i mo chnámha anois nach bhfuil ceart agam. Mar sin de, is é "I am the same learner" é, is docha. ??

1. I am just a learner. = Níl ionam ach foghlaimeoir.

3. I am the same learner. = Is mise an foghlaimeoir céanna.

Tuigim anois - go raibh maith agat. Shíl mé gurbh ainmfhocal é ionam ach feicim anois gurbh é reamhfhocal é sin - an-suimiúil! Feicim go gcaithfidh mé ag foghlamtha Ceacht 26 in Ó Siadhail freisin!

Is foghlaimeoir síoraí mise, freisin, agus -- mar a dúirt an té a dúirt -- cainteoir dóchais.

Nó cainteoir na Gaeilge, b'fhéidir?

Deirtear go mbíodh Tómas de Bhaldraithe, agus é anonn go maith sna blianta, ag tabhairt "Ag Foghlaim Gaeilge" mar fhreagra ar cheisteanna amhail "Cad tá ar bun agat anois"

Focal an Lae

Their first person present indicative conjugation of Irish verbs has been consistently incorrect, mar shampla:
Scríobhann mé, canann mé in áit Scríobhaim,canaim…
I sent them a note suggesting they consult Foclóir Beag for correct conjugations.

Their BYKI package is very basic and it seems correct.
I’ve been asking them to include Irish in the Word of the Day selections and now we have it…with some growing pains!!

quote:

Their first person present indicative conjugation of Irish verbs has been consistently incorrect, mar shampla:
Scríobhann mé, canann mé in áit Scríobhaim,canaim…

Ceist agam, le bhur dtoil: Feicim sa leabhar Turas Teanga seo:

quote:

In the first person singular, present tense, you have a choice when you're answering Yes or No:
An dtéann tú ag snámh?
Téim / Ní théim
or
Téann/Ní théann

So, is it true then that you could answer with something like Téann/Ní théann for the first-person singular, but if so, you don't include the pronoun mé in that case?

No, you never answer with the pronoun in Irish I've seen learners do so because they use to English.

Ar chuala tú na madraí ag troid inné?/Did you hear the dogs fighting last night?

You reply ''Chuala'' for yes or ''Níor chuala'' never with the pronoun.

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(Message edited by Trigger on April 23, 2008)

Aontaím le Trigger.

Fosta, braithim go bhfuil an sampla a thug turas teanga ceart, ach níl cúis agam leis.

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No, you never answer with the pronoun in Irish I've seen learners do so because they use to English.

Actually, responses like scríobhaim and canaim intrinsically contain the pronoun "mé. Also, the example "chuala/nior chuala" doesn't address the question as to whether the exclusive, first-person singular form is needed when anwswering a question since "chuala/níor chuala" would be used for all persons, including the first-person singular.

So, the question still remains whether the form used for the second-person, third-person can also be used for the first person. That is, can téann/ní théann be used for the first person in responding to the question "An dtéann tú ag snámh?"

If someone could provide a straightforward answer, Yes or No, to this question that would be appreciated.

It can. So can "téim"/"ní théim", but not "téann mé"/"ní théann mé."

quote:

It can

Hmmmm....I guess that's American for Yes

Thanks for the straightforward answer. I've been puzzled as to how "correct" the structure téann/ní théann for the first person is and whether it was a dialectical thing or not.

UG > I'm talking about the pronouns of ''mé, tú, sé, sí, sibh'' like..

Not scríobhAIM, cuirIM, snámhAIM etc.

Turas Teanga also indicates "In Irish, when your answer to a question is Yes or No it's not necessary to use a pronoun (mé, tú, etc.). By the use of "not necessary" above, I get the impression that although it is "not necessary," one can use the personal pronouns.

Who'd like to improve TL's Focal an Lae?

http://nh.craigslist.org/edu/654795122.html

It wouldn't be common to repeat the subject (whether noun or pronoun) when answering a question but it certainly isn't wrong to do so. It's a matter of usage rather than grammar - why repeat redundant words? There are times when it may be necessary to specify the subject in an answer:

"An mbíonn siad san oifig gach lá?"
"Bíonn seiseann ach ní bhíonn sise."

An answer such as "bíonn agus ní bhíonn" wouldn't be considered very helpful.

Saying that the subject isn't repeated when answering a question in Irish is like saying that the verb isn't repeated when answering a question in English. It isn't the usual thing to do, but it isn't wrong. To the question:

"Do you walk to work every day?"

The most likely answer is either "yes" or "no". But if things are are more complicated it might be something like:

"I walk most days, but not when it's wet."

I think that one of the few if not only time we categorically answer questions which need only a simple affirmative or negative with "Yes" or "No" in English is when on the witness stand. I don't think that's the way an speaker of English always responds naturally to simple questions. For example, if someone asks "Do you walk to work every day," I can see many people answering the question as "I do," or "I don't." To teach a learner of English that, for simple answers, she or he must say "Yes" or "No" would be highly misleading.

The advice in Turas Teanga that it's not necessary to use the pronoun when answering implies that the pronoun could be used. And if so, in the situations where the pronoun is used, does it imply anything? There seems to be a little more to this subject that for it to be brushed off as 'another' case of students' difficulty with learning Irish.

UG > It doesn't matter if it says its not necessary, you don't answer with pronoun, simple.

Listen to any experienced/native speaker speaker, or even ask them a question and see how they reply..

Not a member, yet, but I am attempting to learn Irish. I was using Dennis King's Focal an Lae, only to discover it's nolong on the web. I had printed almost all of his pages (I'm missing #344).

I would very much like to discover more sites that offer free lessons on the web and groups in the Austin, Texas, area. If anyone here has any leads on this, I would be very grateful. (Not a big fan of going to the local "pub" and hoping to find someone who thinks they know Gaelig, but that's about all I might have at this moment.)

Focal an Lae has long been inactive, hosted at a site that I have no personal connection with. I did not realize that it had finally been deleted until your message here. I had fun creating it, and a lot of people seemed to enjoy it. There is so much else out there now, however, that I'm probably not going to make much effort to resurect it. You can still access it, piecemeal, by Googling "focal an lae" and keywords, and then choosing the "cached" version.

Anyway, here's your missing #344. Thanks for for your interest!

-Dennis


béim (BAYM) [b'e:m']

Meaning: béim = blow, stroke, emphasis

Usage: Chuir sí béim ar an bhfocal sin. (KHWIHR shee BAYM ehr uh WO-kuhl shin) [xir' s'i: b'e:'m er' # vok#l s'in'] = She emphasized that word. (lit., she put emphasis on that word)

béim thua (BAYM HOO-uh) [b'e:m' hu:#] = an axe blow

Bhain mé béim as. (WAHN may BAYM ahs) [van m'e: b'e:m' as] = I took him down a notch. (lit., took I stroke out-of-him)

History: Old Irish "béimm", the verbal noun of "benaid" (strikes), comes from Indo-European *bhei-smn, from the root *bhei- (to strike). Cognates in English include "bill" (bird's beak) and "bill" (weapon or pruning hook). See Focal #244 for "bain" (to strike, etc.)

Scottish Gaelic: beum