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Apolloant
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Username: Apolloant
Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2008
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Cen Ecla.
Is it shawn aykla? |
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Bearn
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Username: Bearn
Post Number: 367
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 12:05 am: |
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Does not even look modern cinn/ceann Ec(h)la(dh)?????
Why would anyone think 'cen' was pronounced 'shawn'?
le díol
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 2254
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 02:44 am: |
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Cen ecla = without fear, in Old Irish
Maybe something like [cɛnʲ ɛgla] but you'd better wait for Dennis' answer !
Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 04:33 am: |
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A Lughaidh, Ná bíodh eagla ar bith ort roimh "Dennis's" in áit "Dennis'" a rá, nó a scríobhadh... Tá sé ceart ar fad ó thaobh na gramadaí de, agus ibhfad níos nádúrthaí... |
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 2255
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 06:41 am: |
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Ok. Níl ann ach an rud a d’fhoghlaim mé ar scoil (bíodh cuimhn’ agad nach Béarlóir dúchais mé).
Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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Apolloant
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Username: Apolloant
Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 12:25 pm: |
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Jeez, take it easy Bearn. I have no idea how to pronounce Old Irish. I asked for help , not critics.
I just recently discovered my family line on Fathers side is Irish, traced back to 1200's or so. Know any Walsmiths? |
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Domhnall
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Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 1344
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 04:32 pm: |
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I'd just ignore him apolloant..
Walsmiths? Hardly the most Gaelic of families?
Although the invaders themselves became 'more irish than the irish themselves..'
A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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Bearn
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Username: Bearn
Post Number: 368
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 08:51 pm: |
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Usually when something like that happens the poster has been an unwitting victim of some 'advice' prior to posting on this board. It sounded to me like something like that
le díol
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Rg_cuan
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Username: Rg_cuan
Post Number: 237
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 04:38 am: |
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APOLLOANT
Interesting stuff - how'd you trace your ancestors so far back?
Haven't heard of any Walsmiths before - is there another name in your Irish family tree?
And in modern Irish, Cen Ecla is Gan Eagla. |
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Apolloant
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Username: Apolloant
Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 11:06 am: |
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To Rg_cuan, Ancestry.com, and hints from family. Probably were invaders tho', seems to be a trait.
Stories were that one of my great-grandfathers started spouting about german heritage because of the Irishs' less than welcome arrival to the states. Who knows? I'm rather excited and Proud to think that I may have a bit o' Erin in me.
Thanks for your guys help.
Other names in the tree... Dutton, Scot?, Williams, nothing Irish, really. On Father's side, Walsmith all the way back to Ireland. |
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Apolloant
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Username: Apolloant
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 11:08 am: |
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Bearn, No sweat. thx. |
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 2256
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 12:18 pm: |
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Walsmith looks like an English name, with wal + smith. Maybe English people who have been in Ireland for many centuries, but it's not a Gaelic name anyway.
Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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