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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2008 (January- February) » Archive through February 27, 2008 » Pronunciation of To Be in Habitual Past and Conditional « Previous Next »

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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
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Username: Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh

Post Number: 370
Registered: 09-2006


Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 10:56 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Is anybody able to advise regarding the correct CF pronunciation for the following?

bhíteá
bhíodh
bheifeá
bheadh

I could approximate but I'd rather get something decisive. Many thanks.

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Bearn
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Username: Bearn

Post Number: 366
Registered: 06-2007


Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 12:03 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

CF = Cois Fhairrige?

bhíteá [w'i:t'ɑ:]

bhíodh [w'i:χ] bhíodh sé/sí/sibh [w'i:t̥ s'e]

bheifeá [w'eɑ:] or [w'ɛɑ:]

bheadh [w'ɛχ] bheadh sé/sí/siad [w'ɛt̥ s'e]

le díol

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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh

Post Number: 2253
Registered: 01-2005


Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 02:42 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Bearn, it seems you mix up phonetics and phonology: you give phonology here, although you should have written it between slashes. It is phonetics that you write between square brackets.
In phonetics you'd get this:

[ˈviːtʲɑˑ]
[ˈviː(ə)χ] , [ˈviːtʲ] before sé, sí, sibh, seisean, etc (ie. before personal pronouns that begin with s
[ˈvɛɑˑ]
[vɛχ] and [vɛtʲ] before sé, sí, etc.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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James
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Username: James

Post Number: 530
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 11:20 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Oh my goodness....I think these funny little squiggles, dashes and dots just made sense to me!!!

Go raibh maith agat, a Lughaidh!

Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón.
Fáilte roimh cheartú, go deo.

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Buachaill_rua
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Username: Buachaill_rua

Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 09:46 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Fair play to you because Im lost.



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