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Antaine
Member Username: Antaine
Post Number: 1169 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 02:45 pm: |
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Hello, I'm wondering if anyone would be so kind as to record (or link to an existing) a sound file of the pronunciation of the Nicine Creed in Irish. I'd like to learn it, but I find it easiest for memorized things like that to listen to it while following along until I have it. Much thanks A |
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James
Member Username: James
Post Number: 527 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 07:47 pm: |
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Ataine, Mo Chara... I know it's not exactly what you asked for but, if you go to the RnaG site and find the archived broadcasts of Mass you will hear the creed during the service. You'll recoginize it the minute you hear "Creidim". I remember listening to on-line while I was out of the country a while back. Hope that is at least some help. Le meas, James Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón. Fáilte roimh cheartú, go deo.
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 6839 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 04, 2008 - 06:16 am: |
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If your hear "creidim" it's the Apostles Creed (which is often used) Creidimid (we believe) is how the Nicence Creed starts off. |
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James
Member Username: James
Post Number: 528 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 04, 2008 - 05:35 pm: |
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I stand corrected....I'm new to the Catholic side of things.... Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón. Fáilte roimh cheartú, go deo.
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 6841 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 06:11 am: |
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They are both pre even the East/West Schism. I don't know why the Fathers at Nicea thought it necessary to make it a communal Creed rather than a personal one - but I'm sure they had good reasons. |
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Antaine
Member Username: Antaine
Post Number: 1173 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 11:34 am: |
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Well, couple interesting philosophical foods-for-thought...the faith by its nature is not a personal one but one of community. Those beliefs aren't just the beliefs of the person saying it, but of the Church Universal. If you're using it at Mass, you have a community of people (the parish) espousing those beliefs - communal language makes sense. Individual language might make sense there too, but I'd like to think that a Mass full of people proclaiming a creed is not a room full of individuals stating concurrent individual beliefs abut a cooperative community stating a oneness of belief and purpose with each other. A little pedantic, maybe, but when I get thinking about language (just to bring it all back to Irish) I like to try to tease out minute shades of meaning like that...I find it helps in remembering words, phrases and even sometimes how phrases should be built. |
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