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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
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Username: Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
Post Number: 364
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 11:31 pm: |   
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Ceist agaibh. Conas a déarfeá as Gaeilge "The big women"?
"Na mrá móra"
nó
"Na mrá mhóra" ?
Or neither? GRMA! |
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Lars
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Username: Lars
Post Number: 202
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 04:28 am: |
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Neither
Na mná móra (mná not mrá)
Lars |
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 3464
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 12:56 pm: |
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"Mná" a scríobhtar i gcónaí. Ach tá a lán daoine ann a fhuaimníonn mar /mra:/ é.
In some dialects, the combination of consonant + 'n' is regularly pronounced as consonant +'r'. Mar shampla, "cnoc, cnámh, cnap," etc. can all be pronounced 'cr-'. "Gnó, gnáth," etc. can be pronounced 'gr-'. And "tnúth," etc. can be pronounced 'tr-'.
"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 2240
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 07:09 pm: |
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Don chuid is mó: n mar r sna cásannaí sin i gConnachta agus in Ultaibh, n mar n i Mumhain.
I gcanúintí áiríd, gidh gur cailleadh fuaim an n, cluintear srónáil ar an ghuta i ndiaidh an "r":
mná [mɾæ͂ː]
Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
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Username: Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
Post Number: 365
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 10:30 pm: |
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Thank you both! (FYI, "mrá" was a typo on my part; I did mean to type mná. :)
I was basically trying to confirm whether the rules for adjectives modifying plural nouns superseded the rules for adjectives modifying feminine nouns, or if they somehow worked together. (I.e., "mná" is feminine so it would ordinarily cause lenition in the following adjective... ) |
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 2242
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 02:27 am: |
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In the plural, the only words that cause lenition are those that end with a slender consonant (except caoirigh), it doesn't matter what gender they are.
Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 3466
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 11:17 am: |
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quote:except caoirigh Is fíor duit: "na caoirigh bána". Ach is aisteach an eisceacht é! An bhfuil a fhios ag éinne céard é an bunús atá leis? An gá dúinn cloí le heisceachtaí atá chomh picky, persnickety leis sin, dáiríre?
"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."
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