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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2007 (November-December) » Archive through December 21, 2007 » Gaeltacht Bhóthar Seoighe / Shaw's Road Gaeltacht, Belfast « Previous Next »

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Danny (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 02:46 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Can anyone here comment on the language situation there? It is mostly hype or is there really an Irish speaking "community" to be found there?

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Gaelgannaire
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Post Number: 164
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Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 05:12 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Here is some basic info.

http://www.bailegaelach.com/page2/page2.html

There is a book ...

http://books.google.com/books?id=pVQpTRgODVEC&pg=PA61&lpg=PA61&dq=our+own+langua ge+an+irish+initiative&source=web&ots=JSUz40bCEx&sig=eO7_IXnDi2NN3-4jjrkeTkw0gzA #PPP1,M1

Originally only totally Irish speaking families were permitted into the scheme however a number of other languages can be found today, notably Basque and Portugese.

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Mise_fhéin
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Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 06:16 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

An neartaíonn na teangacha eile an tsráid mar Ghaeltacht? dar leatsa.

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Gaelgannaire
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 06:43 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Cha neartaíonn ACH tá gach ceart ag daoine cibé duine is maith leo a phosadh, agus coinníonn sé an Bhéarla amach cibé.

Lena chois sin, is comhartha na sláinte é dar liomsa go bhfuil an t-aos óg a tógadh ann chomh oscailte sin do theangacha agus do chultúir eile.

Is iontach amach an rud é an Ghaeilg atá a labhairt ag lucht inimirce in Iarthar Bhéal Feirste i gcoitinne áfach.

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Domhnall
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Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 06:45 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Bhíos ann. Naíonra agus gaelscoil thar a bheith láidir ann ó thaobh na gaeilge de. Chuala mé daid amháin ag labhairt lena iníon trí ghaeilge trasna an bhóthair.
Gaeilge ar chaighdeán sách-ard ag na páistí, níos fearr ná roinnt ceantair ghaeltachta oifigiúla. Ach sin ráite níl mórán gaeilge á labhairt idir na tuismitheoirí..

An tuairim "ba mhaith liom go mbeidh an ghaeilge ag mo pháistí..." seachas claróidh mise le ranganna gaeilge..

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river

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Domhnall
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Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 06:53 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dála an scéil, tuismitheoirí páistí na gaelscoile a bhíos ag labhairt futhu seachas na daoine go bhfuil cónaí acu san estáit.

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river

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Gaelgannaire
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Post Number: 166
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 06:55 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Domhnaill,

Silim go bhfuil tú ag caint ar an cheantar i gcoitinne seanchas ar Phobal Feirste 'Gaeltacht Bhóthar Seoighe' atá ina forbairt títhíochta príobháideacha do lucht labartha na Gaeigle.

Ach, ní bhíonn daoine ag crochadh thart ar an tsráid, mar sin ní chluinfidh tú Gaeilge muna theann tú isteach i dteach éigin.

Dar ndóigh, ó bhí deireadh na seachtóidí ann ligeadh páistí nach cainteoirí ón chliabhán iad isteach i mBunscoil Phobal Feirste, mar sin beidh Béarlóirí ann fosta.

Bíonn na daoine ann amuigh sa Cultúrlann, CCÁ, Maddens agus srl. má tá duine ag iarraidh buaileahd leo.

Tá teaghlach leath Breatnach ann fosta.

B'fhéidir a rá gur breacGhaeltacht Páirc Ros Goill de bhrí go bhfuil teaghlaigh lánGhaeilge ann agus go dtéann tromlach dena páistí chuig an Ghaelscoil. Tá teaghlaigh Gaeilge sa cheantar maguaird fosta nach bhfuil ina mbaill de Phobal Feirste go hoifigiúil.

Mar sin bheadh 300 duine sa cheantar sin cinnte ach ní bheadh ach 100 nó mar sin istigh sa Ghaeltacht mar sin ceart.

Tá níos mó ná 300 páiste ar an Ghaelscoil áfach.

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Domhnall
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Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 04:33 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Bhuel an daid agus a iníon bhí cónaí orthu sa bhforbairt príobháideach ach na tuistí ag labhairt i mBéarla caithfidh go raibh cónaí orthu taobh amuigh den áit.

Is maith an rud é ar bhealach go bhfuil Béarlóirí ag freastal ar an nGaelscoil - cuireann sé le Gaeilgeoirí an cheantair. Labhraíonn clann Príomhoide na gaelscoile gaeilge sa bhaile - sin a deir a hiníon (cara de mo chuid atá inti) liom pé scéal! Agus ó mo thaithí sa scoil ní filleann muintir gaeltachta na scoile ar an mbéarla agus iad ag caint leis na páistí gur as an taobh amuigh iad.

Chonac go bhfuil comhartha dátheangach ansin ar bhóthar seoighe do Pháirc Ros Goill.

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river

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Domhnall
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Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 04:37 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I see you posted to us from Canada Danny...

Any word from over there on the Gaeltacht Cheanada front?

Myself and gaelgannáire have experience, do you follow our above comments?

D

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river

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Danny (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 05:16 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

No, I live on the West Coast so I'm too far away.

As of now, I can't follow your discussions aside from the odd word. Care to provide a quick summary?

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Gaelgannaire
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Post Number: 169
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Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 05:22 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

tomorrow a chara ....

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Gaelgannaire
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Post Number: 170
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Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 05:20 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Shaws Road Gaeltacht - map here http://www.bailegaelach.com/page2/page2.html.

It is thirty houses, almost totally Irish speaking with some Basque, Welsh, Portuguese, maybe a word or two of English. It is a residental area, nothing much to see.

There are other Irish speaking houses scattered around te area not officialy part of the scheme. There are 300+ children at the IM school, Bunscoil Phobal Feirste. The people will socialise in the Cultúrlann, down the round, Maddens, CCÁ etc.

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Danny2007
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Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 05:56 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith 'ad a Gaelgannaire. I look forward to checking the area out in '08.



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