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Antaine
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:15 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

What are the proper terms for these US equivalents (broken down by the typical age range for that grade). I'm writing a story and I'd like to identify some of the characters' ages indirectly, but mentioning what level they are in school.


Pre-K ages 4-5
Kindergarten ages 5-6

ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
1st grade ages 6-7
2nd grade ages 7-8
3rd grade ages 8-9
4th grade ages 9-10

MIDDLE SCHOOL
5th grade ages 10-11
6th grade ages 11-12
7th grade ages 12-13
8th grade ages 13-14

HIGH SCHOOL
Freshman ages 14-15
Sophomore ages 15-16
Junior ages 16-17
Senior ages 17-18

COLLEGE
Freshman ages 18-19
Sophomore ages 19-20
Junior ages 20-21
Senior ages 21-22

GRADUATE SCHOOL
grad student can be any age beyond 21/22



Also, if the modern Irish breakdown was different during the 80s or 90s that could be valuable info as well.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 06:13 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Primary school 4 to 12 (Junior Infants, Senior Infants, 1st - 6th Class)

Secondary School 12 to 18 (1st Year to 6th Year)

College - just named by year.

After taking a degree people are known as postgraduates.

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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 07:00 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

What about Gaelscoileanna?
Is there a pre-primary level?
(What we'd call pre-school here)

Does gaelcholáistí = post-primary?

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Aonghus
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 08:24 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Naoínra/Naíscoil

quote:

Does gaelcholáistí = post-primary?


Yes.

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Suaimhneas
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 08:26 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Yes there are pre-schools, but there is no state pre-school sector as such, and attendance is optional.

Also secondary school is broken into two cycles, junior and senior

Junior cycle is three years (usually 12 - 15 age) with a state exam Junior Certificate at the end, (with typically 9 subjects being taken)

Senior cycle comprises 2 or three years depending on school. Most schools offer a "life skills" Transition Year Programme (TYP) in the first year of senior cycle (in some schools it's compulsory; in others, optional). This is followed by two further years ending in the Leaving Certificate (typically 7 subjects)

Leaving Cert results can be converted in to Third Level (college/University) "points" and this score largely determines what third level courses are open to you.

As far as I understand, it Gaelcholáisti is the term for secondary schools teaching wholly through Irish, although some English speaking schools are now offering the full range of subjects through the medium of Irish. This is in response through the growing number of kids coming through from Gaelscoilleanna

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Aonghus
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 08:30 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Also, Gaelcholáiste is a relatively new term; i.e. not all Irish Medium second Level schools are called Gaelcholáiste.

http://www.gaelscoileanna.ie/index.php?page=secondary_schools

Maidir le Naoínraí:

http://www.naionrai.ie/

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Antaine
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 10:10 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Yeah, we use postgrad, too.

So now, what are the words for "year" and "class" when referring to 6th class? Séú Rang? Séú Grád? The "year" levels I imagine would just be "bliain," no?

(Message edited by antaine on December 05, 2007)

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Aonghus
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 10:40 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá mé i rang a sé
BUT
Tá mé san seú bhliain

(Proofreading required)

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 10:49 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

'Sa (t)séú bliain’, i think.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm & http://fsii.gaeilge.org/

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Rg_cuan
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:10 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá an ceart ag Lughaidh.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 01:18 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Mar a dúirt mé!

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Riona
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 05:15 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A Antaine a chara,

You're always writing stories. I wish I could read some of them.

Beir bua agus beannacht

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Antaine
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Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 12:13 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I'm always writing them, unfortunately I'm not always finishing them.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 06:17 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Scríobh Lughaidh
quote:

'Sa (t)séú bliain’, i think



Tá beagán amhrais ag teacht orm:

Dar liom "An Séú Bliain" (Sixth Year, rud cinnte) atá i gceist.

Nach mbeadh "Tá mé san séú bhliain" ceart mar sin?
Ach "Tá mé sa tséú bliain de mo mheanscolaíocht", i. tá sé bliana caite agam leis?

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Antaine
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Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 09:32 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"College - just named by year. "

Do you mean Freshman, Sophomore, Junior and Senior year or First Year, Second Year etc.?

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 10:33 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

First, second agus mar sin de.

Trinity College uses the more elegant terms; and all colleges have a Freshers Week, but...

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 10:47 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

http://www.ucd.ie/gaeilge/focheim/focheim.html

mac léinn chéad bliana
mac léinn dara bliana
mac léinn tríú bliana

7rl.



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