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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2007 (November-December) » Archive through November 07, 2007 » Lenition of adjectives after female names « Previous Next »

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brn (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 08:08 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I know declination comes into it, but how general is the rule that the female name is considered feminine automatically, and beag or mór would be lenited after it?

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Rg_cuan
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 08:34 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

It applies to any adjective than can be aspirated.

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Mbm
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:04 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I'd say it's pretty universal.

Although, there is a famous venue in Galway called Róisín Dubh. I find that very strange as a name. Róisín is a girl's name, so it should be Róisín Dhubh, strictly speaking.

Mo bhlag sa seanchló Gaelach:
www.cainteoir.com

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CJM (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:23 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Is not the word cailín (a girl ) also masculine !

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Aonghus
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:24 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Yes, because it was once neuter. It still is in German.

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Peter
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:46 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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Róisín Dubh



Seo dhuit mo ghó-sa faoi seo: mb’fhéidir gur as “ros” (m1)(headland) a tháinig an focailín seo isteach sa teanga… "a black wooded headland"... tá sé ag breathnú alright mar seo.

'Rath Dé agus bail Phádraig ar a bhfeicfidh mé ó éireoidh mé ar maidin go gcodlóidh mé san oíche'


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Seosamh
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:40 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ba leis an nGearmáinis 'hros' (capall) an ainm 'Róisín' a Pheter (Ó Corráin, Donnchadh, and Fidelma Maguire. Irish Names, 2nd ed. Dublin: The Lilliput Press, 1990).

Is doiligh an 'd' a shéimhiú i ndiaidh an 'n'.
Féach 'Bean Dubh an Ghleanna', mar a bhfuil an séimhiú múchta ag na déadaigh, n & d, chomh maith.

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brn (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:06 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

ya, there is some question about cadad between nouns and adjectives. Some say it is OK, but it is hardly surprising that in speech rules get over generalized from one place to another



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