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James_murphy
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Username: James_murphy
Post Number: 99
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 03:55 pm: |   
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Does anyone know the origin of the word 'Ponncán' - 'an American', 'Yank'?
Thanks.
Séamus Ó Murchadha
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James
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Username: James
Post Number: 500
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 05:49 pm: |
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I do know that "Punkin'" is a southern term of endearment. But, I always assumed it was from "Pumpkin"...however, given the amount of Irish and Scotch-Irish influx in the south it may have derived from Ponncán. Geez..who knows!?!?
Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón.
Fáilte roimh cheartú, go deo.
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Rg_cuan
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Username: Rg_cuan
Post Number: 75
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 07:54 pm: |
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Ceist mhaith.
I think it's probably linked to the American English word 'Punk', which has been around for a while though its meaning has changed over the years. |
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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
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Username: Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
Post Number: 289
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 11:14 pm: |
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Right regarding "punkin," James.
But "punk" is a very mildly pejorative term (at least in the North, where I'm from). Cops usually use it to describe trouble-making youth tending toward riff-raff... and given the Irish influence on law enforcement in the northeast, maybe that's where the term "punk" originated? (Etymology seems to be uncertain at best.)
Punkin -- Ponncán -- Punk ... Chicken or egg? Or coincidence? |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 6236
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 06:17 am: |
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I have a niggling feeling that "Pon(n)cán" which was applied to returning emigrants may have to do with "ponc" meaning precise/neat.
Returning emigrants would have had a bit oif cash, and American (shop/factory made) clothing.
(Message edited by aonghus on September 25, 2007) |
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mahoo (Unregistered Guest)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 11:36 am: |
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where I grew up "punk"
was a slur, about your sexuality
if you were called a punk you were being called
a fag. sorry to be so blunt but it is
what it is |
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 3249
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 02:05 pm: |
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An bhfuil suíomh agat ar an idirlíon, a Mhahoo? Ya got a website?
"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."
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Séamas_Ó_neachtain
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Username: Séamas_Ó_neachtain
Post Number: 723
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 02:21 pm: |
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An mbraitheann tú go bhfuil an t-ádh agat, a Phunk? |
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Rg_cuan
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Username: Rg_cuan
Post Number: 76
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 04:08 pm: |
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Spéisiúil a Aonghuis, an tuairim phearsanta í seo nó an bhfuil fianaise ann áit éigin?
Dála an scéil, ar Blas anocht bhí siad ag caint ar shaol na blagadóireachta Gaeilge! Agus silím go raibh Séamas luaite arís! |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 6240
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 04:11 pm: |
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Tuairim phearsanta, nó má bhí bunús leis, ní cuimhin liom! |
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Séamas_Ó_neachtain
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Username: Séamas_Ó_neachtain
Post Number: 724
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 05:02 pm: |
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Mura raibh, ní raibh tuairisc chuimsitheach ann! GRMA. |
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James_murphy
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Username: James_murphy
Post Number: 100
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 09:04 pm: |
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Go raibh maith agaibh as bhur bhfreagraí.
Séamus Ó Murchadha
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madvalleyguy (Unregistered Guest)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 03:32 am: |
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A Dhennis ..seattle. No website |
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