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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2007 (September-October) » Archive through September 24, 2007 » Verbal Nouns as Infinitives « Previous Next »

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Pádraig
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Post Number: 643
Registered: 09-2004


Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 08:19 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá ceist agam:

What determines the use of the particle "a" before the verbal noun? For example:

Dúirt sé liom fanacht. (no particle)
Ba mhaith liom sin a dhéanamh. (particle)

or the well known Billy Sunday favorite, Ba mhaith linn Íosa a fheiceáil.

In each example the verbal noun is translated with the infinitive form: to wait, to do, to see. When do I insert the particle?

(Message edited by pádraig on September 08, 2007)

Is ait an mac an saol.

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Lars
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Post Number: 168
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 06:05 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

When there is an object
sin a dhéanamh
Íosa a fheiceáil


Lars

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Róman
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Post Number: 1062
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 07:06 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

yes, but then again there are dialectal differences. In CO (because of Conamara?) they add 'A' in front of bheith also, even if there is no object:

Ba mhaith liom a bheith anseo. Whereas in Munster general rule is supreme:

Ba mhaith liom bheith anso.

Gaelainn na Mumhan abú!

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Pádraig
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Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:14 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith agat, a chairde. Thanks to Lars for a simple clarification, and thanks to Roman for the reminder that it's never that simple.

Is ait an mac an saol.



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