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David ME (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:34 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I am trying to say: I think x should be y.

The existential paradigm conjugation is what I'm looking for in this specific case.


Thanks a lot

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Post Number: 1740
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 09:50 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Is Y a noun, an adjective, a kangaroo?

I think Róisín should be happy / Ceapaim gur ceart áthas a bheith ar Róisín

I think Séamas should be helping / Ceapaim gur ceart do Sheámas bheith ag cabhrú

I think Domhnall should be a doctor / Ceapaim gur ceart do Dhomhnall bheith ina dhoctúir

I think Máirtín should be strong / Ceapaim gur ceart do Mháirtín bheith láidir

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 1769
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 10:16 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Gur cheart", nach eadh?

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm

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David ME (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 11:28 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Thanks Lughaidh,

both x and y are nouns, like in the sentence:

television can not, presumably, be means of education.

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Post Number: 1742
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:38 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A Lughaidh, bhfuil tú ag rá gur c(h)eart an modh cionnaíollach a úsáid nuair a bhítear ag rá "should" as Gaoluinn? i.e. "Ba cheart duit" in ionad "Is ceart duit"?

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Róman
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Post Number: 917
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:45 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

Gur cheart", nach eadh?



In the past tense, but not in the present tense. Why?

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Róman
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Post Number: 918
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:46 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

"Ba cheart duit" in ionad "Is ceart duit"?



Is ceart dom, gan dabht.

Gaelainn na Mumhan abú!

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Daithí (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:25 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Chuala mise 'ba cheart' agus 'ba chóir' duit... meaning 'you should'.
Daithí

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Róman
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Post Number: 920
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 04:28 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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Chuala mise 'ba cheart' agus 'ba chóir' duit... meaning 'you should'.



Is ceart dom = I should (now)
Ba cheart dom = I should have (in the past).

Where is the catch? Or I still don't get something?

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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 10:23 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Chuala mé i gcónaí an leagan sin sa módh coinníollach--Ba cheart duit....

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Róman
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Post Number: 922
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 01:46 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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Chuala mé i gcónaí an leagan sin sa módh coinníollach



As I have seen it in two textbooks by Munster natives as "is ceart dom", tá amhras orm that you have seen Béarlachas i gcomhnaí. I should (conditional) -> Ba cheart dom (conditional). Irish has normal present tense in such expression and there tons of them:

is maith liom
is breá liom
is ail liom
is dóigh liom
is fiú dom
is ceart dom
....

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