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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 5829
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 05:17 pm: |   
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http://briathar.materdei.ie/ quote:Cuireann tionscadal BRIATHAR (http://briathar.materdei.ie) acmhainní ar fáil i nGaeilge do mhúinteoirí an Teastais Shóisearaigh san Oideachas Reiligiúnach. Beifear ag cur leis an ábhar de réir a chéile feasta. |
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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg
Post Number: 1724
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 06:14 pm: |
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I'd just like to take a show of hands from the people here that are native, or at least fluent. Who says "múinteoirí an Teastais Shóisearaigh", and who says "múinteoirí an Teastais Sóisearaigh"?
-- Fáilte Roimh Cheartú --
Muna mbíonn téarma Gaoluinne agaibh ar rud éigin, bígí cruthaitheach! Ná téigí i muinín focail Bhéarla a úsáid, údar truaillithe é sin dod chuid cainte.
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 1759
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 06:49 pm: |
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The first one is standard. However, I'm almost sure that most Gaeltacht speakers would use the second one. -s followed by sh- is odd in Irish...
Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm
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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
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Username: Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
Post Number: 190
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 07:03 pm: |
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Teastais Sóisearaigh...
Actually, would this be a case of the slender final s from the first word being continued as slender into the following word's initial S, even though it's broad?
(Message edited by domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh on July 04, 2007) |
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 1761
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 07:21 pm: |
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I'm not sure I understand you. The s- of Sóisearaigh is always broad... Or what did you mean?
Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm
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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
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Username: Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
Post Number: 191
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2007 - 02:27 am: |
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I'm wondering if it's a case of the initial S of Sóisearaigh being pronounced as slender because it's immediately preceded by the slender final s of teastais.
Kind of like, if you say the word "bhfuil" alone, the final l is slender. But if you say "An bhfuil tú go maith?", that l is prounced as broad because it comes immediately prior to the broad t of "tú."
Is this any clearer? |
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Bearn
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Username: Bearn
Post Number: 128
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2007 - 08:03 am: |
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Usually, the leading word is the primer form assimilation etc
Personally, I find the phrase hard to pronounce unless you do some sort of assimilation as flicking all those s sounds in small spaces.
Bi-labial inside ®
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