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Skii28
Member Username: Skii28
Post Number: 36 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 03:37 am: |
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Hi I'm living in co. clare How do you pronunce Bainistíocht táirgeachta Also how do you say I will drive home tomorrow Go raibh maith agaat |
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Daithí (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 04:46 am: |
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bainistíocht táirgeachta [BAN-ish-teext TAWrig-axta]* *x is the sound of 'ch' in the Scottish loch, German Bach... I'll drive home tomorrow. Tiománfaidh mé abhaile amárach. I suppose most native speakers would pronounce tiomán- with a broad rather than a slender 't', though. Slan Daithí |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 1687 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 12:52 pm: |
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The future of tiomáin is tiomáinfidh, I think. Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm
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Daithí (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 06:09 am: |
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I thought it was like siúil, siúlfaidh... |
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Róman
Member Username: Róman
Post Number: 817 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 08:15 am: |
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siúil - siúlaim is a syncopating verb (siobhail - siobhlaim), tumáin - tumáinaim is not - it is a plain 1st conjugation verb. Actually I am curious about other verb: foghlaim - foghlamaím/ foghlaimím - why is it second conjugation if it is not syncopating? Gaelainn na Mumhan abú!
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B0R0N (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 08:39 am: |
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Maybe as it is long/multi syllable? |
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Róman
Member Username: Róman
Post Number: 818 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 09:55 am: |
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Good point, but we have verbs like "freastail" which are also multisyllable, but still first conjugation! Gaelainn na Mumhan abú!
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Silemaire
Member Username: Silemaire
Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 10:03 am: |
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Hello, I am working on a play about Granuile....how do you pronounce the phrase: "Go mhfearr lei lan loinge de cloinn Conroi na lan loinge d’or." Many thanks, Slan, Sheila |
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Daithí (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 11:37 am: |
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It might be analogy. Just because it's long. But analogy usually doesn't affect all words so freastal, adhlaic etc. could remain 1st conj. The same with siúlaim - why is it 1st conjugation if it's syncopating? Obviously because it's monosyllable now /s'u:l-/... cf. also 'labhair' in some dialects /Laur'/ - labhrann, instead of labhraíonn. Daithí |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 1690 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 01:40 pm: |
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Róman, the syllables with m never syncopate. Just s, n, r, l. I think Freastail doesn't syncopate because we would have a cluster stl, which is odd in Irish. Silemaire: Go mhfearr lei lan loinge de cloinn Conroi na lan loinge d’or Must be: go mb'fhearr léi lán loinge de chloinn Chonroí ná lán loinge d’ór. Pronounced: goh maarr lay laan ling-uh doh KHlinn-y KHonn-ree nah laan ling-uh dawr. in IPA: [gˠɔ m´ɛːr leː l̪ˠænˠ l̪ˠɪŋʲɪ d̪ˠɔ χlˠɪɲ χɔn̪ri nˠa l̪ˠæːnˠ l̪ˠɪŋʲɪ d̪ˠɔːɾ] Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm
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