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Gaeilge
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Username: Gaeilge

Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 04:32 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Need very easy help with these, I must say that I am stuck.

To say ''his table'' would I say [b]a bhord[/b] and to ''His something'' do I simply put ''a and H in the word''?

Also to say something ''Their _______'' how would I say it? Would it not ''A dteach''?

Basically, to put ''Their house'' or ''Their something'' how would I translate it?

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Mac_léinn
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Username: Mac_léinn

Post Number: 546
Registered: 01-2007


Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 05:33 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

What you have above is basically correct. This might be obvious, but I thought I'd mention that the addition of "h," for the case of "his," occurs for the consonants only, except for those that cannot be lenited. The consonants that can't be lenited are h,l,r,n.

For the case of "their," the first letter of the noun is eclipsed with the proper letter, which in your case above was "d." The letters that can't be eclipsed are h,l,m,n,r,s. Also, if the noun begins with a vowel, nothing (no "h") is added for the case of "his", but for case of "theirs," an "n-" is added to the noun.

Mar shampla:

a charr: his car
a úll: his apple


a bhfoireann their team
a n-aintín their aunt

The story gets more detailed if "his, "theirs" and the other personal possessive adjectives come before certain prepositions. Here's an excellent website that should give you all the information on personal possesive adjective, including their occurence after prepositions:

http://nualeargais.ie/gnag/possess.htm
(Looks like you'll have to copy and paste the link)


P.S. My reference for the information above is Leabhar Gramadaí Gaeilge, Nollaig Mac Congáil, pg 99.

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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus

Post Number: 5374
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:21 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

http://nualeargais.ie/gnag/possess.htm

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