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Podsers
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Post Number: 262
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Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 06:45 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I've heard on RnaG cainteoirí referring to Fine Gael as Páirtí na (n)Gael is it le 'n' no gan 'n' roimh an 'g' ?

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Domhnall
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Post Number: 990
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Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 07:11 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Le "n"

Ach bheadh Fine Gall níos oiriúnaí déarfainn..

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river

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Podsers
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Post Number: 263
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 05:56 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Cén fáth mar sin go ndeartear Páirtí na nGael?:)

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Post Number: 1512
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 07:28 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A noun is either masculine or feminine, and this effects the way it works with the definite article. The plural works the same way for both genders though:

Nominative: na buachaillí, na sráideanna, na háiteanna, na hasail

Genitive: na mbuachaillí, na sráideanna, na n-áiteanna, na n-asal

For nominative plural, the definite article is "na" and it causes no mutation other than placing a "h" sound before a vowel.

For genitive plural, the definite article is "na" and it causes an urú.

Therefore you have: Muintir na nOileán, Cumann na nGael, Dún na nGall

If you want to know the singular then keep reading:

Masculine nominative singular: an + [no change] (except a "t" is prefixed to vowels. an madra, an buachaill, an t-am, an t-asal, an siúcra

Masculine genitive singular: an + séimhiú ("t" prefix disappears on vowels and moves to S instead) an mhadra, an bhuachalla, an ama, an asail, an tsiúcra

Feminine nominative singular: an + séimhiú (and S gets a T): an bhéim, an fhuinneog, an áit, an áis, an tsráid

Feminine genitive singular: na + [no change] (except vowels get a "h"): na béime, na fuinneoige, na háite, na háise, na sráide

Then all you have to do is learn what happens the adjectives that come after the nouns. . .

an fear beag -> an fhir bhig
an bhean bheag -> na mná bige

It seems like a lot to remember, but I think your mind makes mental queues... I won't lie to you though it takes a bit of practice before you don't have to pause and think, "Wait a minute should that be a séimhiú?".

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Podsers
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Post Number: 264
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 02:08 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ar an ábhair seo, how do you say I will vote?
Is it caithfidh mé do vóta ar ??

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 1643
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 02:11 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I will vote = Vótálfaidh mé

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 5208
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 05:13 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Caitear vótaí freisin.

Caithfidh mise mo vóta ar son na Glasaigh.

Cé hé/hí do rogha, a Lughaidh (ní gá freagairt)
Sarkhozy nó Royale?

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 5209
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 05:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dála an scéil Podser, ceapaim gur chuala tú iad a caint ar "Pháirtí Fhine Gael" seachas "Páirtí na nGael"

Slogtar an "Fhi" agus duine ag caint go gasta.

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 1644
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 05:21 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

B’fhearr liomsa bás a dh’fháilt ná vótáil ar son $arkozy.

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 5210
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 05:32 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ach meas tú an mbeidh an lá leis?

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 1645
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 04:22 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá eagla orm go mbeidh, siocair gur amadáin an chuid is mó do na Francaigh.

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Podsers
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Post Number: 265
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 10:22 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ni thuigim! A Aonghuis

Rud eile de, I am 21 Táim aon is fichid?
How do I pronounce- this bogha ceatha
bog-a cé-tha


bo-wa cé-tha

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 1646
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 12:08 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Táim bliain is fiche (d’aois).

Bogha ceatha "boh-uh kyah-huh"

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm

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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 12:14 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

The substitution of a BL fricative or more likely a w-glide, or even a long unrounded o replacing the o as well (what O Quiggin refers to as a 'vocalised gamma' for the historical gamma [voiced velar fricative]) was the rule I think a century ago for Donegal, but now I think it is a palatal glide then a schwa after a long ó, or ó + ah. Lughaidh will, as always know more on that

th is often preceeded by short vowels, but this is dialect dendant, I think. Cois fharraige has no medial h, most of the time, so the vowel is long. So the variances are:
[b =bw]

bó-ah; bóyah; bówah

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cé-ha; ce-ha; cé-ah

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Domhnall
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Post Number: 999
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 07:35 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Páirtí na nGael... Deirtear sin? i ndáiríre.. Je ne crois pas ca!

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river

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Carlos
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 09:04 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dia dhuit!

b´fhearr liom Ségolène (I don´t know if said fine)
ní mhait liom Sarkozy

Conás tá sibh?

Slán lat.
Carlos.

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Podsers
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Post Number: 267
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Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 03:09 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ní mhaith liom Sarkozy. B'fhearr liom Ségoléne ach an fuil sí chomh cliste aguse a bhíonn Sarkozy?

Ar an ábhar sin, ní maith liom Fianna Fáil. B'fhearr liom an comhrialtas bogha ceatha. Fine Gael, Lucht Oibre agus an Comhaontas Glas. Is fuath an-chuid is mó do na áirí ón Fianna Fáil agus the Pds....
Hanafi, Coughlan, Cowen, ROCHE, agus araile. Níl aon teorainn leo!

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 5212
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Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 06:23 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Podsers;
I'm almost certain what you heard being said was not Pairtí na nGael, but Pairtí Fhine Gael.

Said quickly, you might not pick up the "Fhi" part.

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Podsers
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Post Number: 268
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Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 06:37 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith agat A Aonghuis:)

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Rg_cuan
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 07:07 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Is cinnte gur ‘Páirtí Fhine Gael’ a bhí ann in ionad ’Páirtí na nGael’.

Ní féidir an teideal sin a thabhairt ar aon dream atá ag iarraidh an Ghaeilge a mharú sa chóras oideachais.

Rogha maith iad na Glasaigh gan aon amhras, agus níl Sinn Féin ró-dhona ach an oiread. Níor mhiste liom dá bhfanfadh Fianna Fáil i gcumhacht - tá obair déanta acu - ach a fhad is nach ligtear na PDs isteach arís!

Ségolène Royale an bealach ar fad - máthair mhilis atá inti!

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Domhnall
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Post Number: 1001
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Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 07:39 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

An t-ainm oifigiúil ag FG ná

Fine Gael the united ireland party...

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river



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