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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2007 (May-June) » Archive through May 04, 2007 » Cabhair le do thoil « Previous Next »

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Pádraig
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Post Number: 440
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 10:54 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

An bhfuill aon duine ábalta an focal "réim" a sainiú an véarsa ina dhiaidh seo:

"...cuimhnigh ormsa nuair a thiocfaidh tú faoi réim do ríochta."

Ní maith é an duine a bheith leis féin.

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Dennis
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Post Number: 3006
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 12:05 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

faoi réim = in sway, in power

nuair a thiocfaidh tú faoi réim = nuair a bheas/bheidh tú i do thiarna

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Pádraig
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 01:06 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ah, feicim anois. An bhfuil ríochta ginideach é? = power of your kingdom?

Go raibh maith agat

Ní maith é an duine a bheith leis féin.

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 5145
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 04:30 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Lúcás 23:42!

Sea, go deimhin. Ginideach atá ann. Níl mé cinnte cén fáth, ach seans de bharr an "faoi".

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 1628
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 05:18 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ríochta is the genitive of ríocht. It is in the genitive because it defines "réim" in the same group. No link at all with faoi.

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm

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Dennis
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Post Number: 3008
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 05:36 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

ach seans de bharr an "faoi".

Ní hea. Tá dhá ainmfhocal againn anseo, "réim" agus "ríocht". Tá an dara ceann "faoi réir" ag an gcéad cheann -- agus is féidir a rá freisin go gcáilíonn an dara ceann ("ríocht") an chéad cheann ("réim"). Tig linn "réim ríochta" a chur i gcomparáid le:

fad saoil
cúrsa scoile
teach tábhairne
lá samhraidh

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Pádraig
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Post Number: 444
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 09:58 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith agaibh, a chairde. B'féidir táim ag buladh capall marbh, ach an féidir liom é a rá: "nuair beidh tú i ndiaidh faoi réim do ríochta a teacht" in áit "nuair a thiocfaidh tú?" Níl a fhios agam an difear idir a thiocfaidh agus a teacht.

Ní maith é an duine a bheith leis féin.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 10:38 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

nuair beidh tú i ndiaidh teacht faoi réim do ríochta

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Pádraig
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 12:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A Aonghus,

See "uabhar" post above.

Ní maith é an duine a bheith leis féin.

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 1629
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 03:39 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Nuair A bHeidh tú...

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 5158
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 03:48 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

an bhfuil freagra agat do Phádraig ar ord na bhfocail, a Lughaidh?

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 1630
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 04:07 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

dar liom:
"i ndiaidh teacht faoi réim do ríochta"

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm

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Aonghus
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 04:18 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post


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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 1631
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 07:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ar tús, cha dtuigeam an abairt atá i gceist ann. Cuirigí Béarla air le mur dtoil. Cad é ba mhian libh a ráidht?

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm

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Aonghus
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Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 06:49 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Féach Lúcás 23:42!

Luc 23:42 (Louis Segond)

Souviens-toi de moi, quand tu viendras dans ton règne.

Tá an leagan a thug Pádraig ar dtús sa Bhíobla Naofa.

Bhí sé ag fiosrú an bhfeadfaí é chuir ar mhalairt slí; an cheist ná tuige go gcaithfidh "teacht" a bheith san áit a bhfuil sé againn araon, seachas mar ar chuir seisean é.

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 1633
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Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:29 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Souviens-toi de moi, quand tu viendras dans ton règne.
= Go raibh cuimhne agat orm, nuair a bheas tú in do rí.

Sin a bheadh agam, de réir na habairte Fraincise.

Nach frása "teacht faoi réim" ? Más ea, ní féidir "teacht" a chur in áit eile...

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm

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Pádraig
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Post Number: 452
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Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:17 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Credim go bhfuil sé agam. Gabhann frásaí an mhir 'a' agus an fáistinech tar éis 'nuair' agus seimhíonn an briathar.

"nuair a thiocfaidh tú."

Tarlaínn seo nuair is aicsean fáistinech."

My confusion arose because I was anticipating a construction with the verbal noun: "nuair tá tú i ndiaidh a theacht" = when you have come.

My question now is whether (1) the particle 'a' always aspirates the verb which follows it? And (2) is the use of the future tense preferred over constructions using the verbal noun?

Ní maith é an duine a bheith leis féin.

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 5175
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Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:36 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

1)

25.6.8 Nuair a thagann an mhír bhriathartha a roimh an Ainm
Briathartha, cuireann sé séimhiú air más féidir.
Bhí sé i gceist agam é sin a dhéanamh.
Sin an rud a bhí sí féin a cheapadh.
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