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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2007 (March-April) » Archive through April 11, 2007 » The language situation on Oileán Thoraí/Tory Island, Co. Donegal « Previous Next »

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Danny (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 11:15 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Does anyone know how strong Irish is on Tory Island? I've heard that it's still very strong. Any idea what % use Irish as their main language?

Has anyone here visited recently? Do you know of any articles that deal with language on Tory?

Are we getting to the point where the only strong Irish speaking areas are on islands?

I know there are a very villages on the mainland that remain strong (parts of NW Donegal, West Co. Galway, Dingle Peninsula) but they *seem* to be shrinking.

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 06:00 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I've been one afternoon on Tory (in 2002). I'd say 100% use Irish as their main language, even teenagers and children together. Actually I didn't hear a word of English when I was there. And I think most islanders speak better Irish than English.

There is a study on Tory Irish Grammar, by... oh I can't remember his name... :-(

I don't think Irish is shrinking in the places I know, ie. NW Donegal (Gaoth Dobhair, Rannafast, Cloich Cheannaola).

Learn Irish pronunciation here: www.phouka.com/gaelic/sounds/sounds.htm

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Danny (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 09:30 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Interesting. If that's the case (most who speak better Irish than English), it's probably one of the very few places in the Gaeltacht that is like that, yes?

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Antaine
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Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 11:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

i thought there were census figures that would have broken down by individual towns or at least the individual islands. anyone still have a link to such a thing?

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Fionnskie
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Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 05:53 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

dúirt an foinse ar 1/4 that 34.6% de clann sa gaeltacht i Dún na nGall speak Irish as their first language. The average % of families in the Gaeltacht a bíonn ag labhairt gaeilge ná 28%.

Maigh Eo 15%

An Mhí 21.8%

Corcaigh 32.9%

Contae na Gaillimhe 32.9%

Dun na nGall 34.6%

Port Lairge 24.4%

Cathair na Gaillimhe 7.1%

Ciarraí 29%.

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Fionnskie
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Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 05:54 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

and sorry for rapidly switching languages!

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Riona
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Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 05:58 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I suppose that as small as those numbers are they could always be worse. The Mayo number of 15 percent is very unpleasant.

Beir bua agus beannacht

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Domhnall
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Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 05:19 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I just had a flick through the census website www.cso.ie
I couldn't find anything on Tory though..
I'm sure that it's there somewhere though..

It's worth noting that nowhere in any Gaeltacht is the language getting stronger - it's only getting weaker or remaining stagnant.

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river



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