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Angmar
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Username: Angmar

Post Number: 13
Registered: 01-2007


Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 02:52 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Hi! I have a question concerning lesson 7 of Learning Irish.

Could someone please tell me what is this weird dotted 't' in lesson 7 (as in: Bheadh sé /w'et s'e:/)

Is this consonant velarized, palatalized or...? How is it pronounced? What's the right articulation for it?

My feeling is that it is probably just a plain dental 't' without a particular velar or palatal contrast to it, somewhat like in French. But I'm not sure of this. Perhaps is it alveolar? Could somebody who knows please help me with my question?

By the way, I also posted this question on the yahoo Cois Fhairrge group and no one there seems to really be sure what this is.

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Dennis
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Post Number: 2981
Registered: 02-2005


Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 03:12 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

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Perhaps is it alveolar?

Bingo. Under-dotted letters often represent retroflex stops in other transcription systems, but in this case it's alveolar. I think there's the word "péint" in there somewhere, also with the English (alveolar) t shown.

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Angmar
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 01-2007


Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 12:47 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Thank you very much Dennis!



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