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Colm (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 05:49 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Scríobh mé alt anocht faoin Gaeilge agus an gá tá ann chun ár bpáistí a thógáil sa teanga....

http://corcaighist.blogspot.com/2007/03/at-no-risk-if-he-speaks-it.html

Call me extremist and whatever other words you can think of but truly I believe that if someone lives in Ireland, is Irish and is proud to be Irish then the Irish language should be a central part of their life. I believe that one cannot be Irish without speaking the language, without a grá for the tongue of the Gael.

If one is a parent and truly believes that they are Irish and have love for this country then they should raise their children through the language (or at the least bilingually). If they do not do this I personally doubt their real grá for this land, our heritage and our culture, a free independent nation for all Irish people.

Irish is our history, it is our past. Our stories, what make us who we are is contained in an oral tradition that is expressed through Irish. If you reject Irish for this foreign Norman/Saxon tongue called English you are rejecting yourself, rejecting who you are.

It never ceases to amaze me how we as a nation can sit back and just accept that our language is sick, that she is very very sick. Sit back at just accept that she is dying. She needs help and we ignore her. She is like an old granny whom most of us love (whom some of us hate), who is let die slowly in the corner, who takes no part in the affairs and events of the everyday....

If we are serious about Irish and Ireland's place as a sovereign nation we must realise that our ancestral tongue is sick, very sick, but that it is us now, us today, the Irish people that are to blame for her downfall. For over 80 years we have had an independent state but yet our language has been getting continuously weaker. It is the state and the Irish people themselves that have been the dominant force of Angloisation of this island.

It is unbelievable that we entrust the education system to keep our language alive, falsely believing that some teacher will instil a grá for the language in our children. Rubbish. Such is not possible if there is no place for Irish in the home.

Irish is like the telephone when it first became available. The cost to be one of the first to buy it was great and the benefit little but year by year more people bought telephones, the cost decreased and the benefit increased. Irish is like this. If we all brush up on our knowledge (learn or re-learn it for some), and use it in our everyday interactions over time Irish will be re-normalised in Irish society. The question: ‘Why speak Irish?’ will become: ‘Why not speak Irish?’ With each added speaker the benefit to speaking the language will increase. The issue is not either/or Irish or English but both/and Irish AND English, and why not Polish and French and Spanish as well? But the most important one is Irish. If we abandon and neglect Irish noone else can be blamed. It is our language. We can’t get anyone else to speak it for us!

Irish needs to be allowed breath in all areas of life, across all communities, to find a new life, a life again in all activities and events. If Irish is not give a place in the home, in the communities (and I mean a real living place as a spoken language, not some tokenistic historical artefact) then it will die and our past will go with it, and the Irish people and Ireland will die too, we will all fade away. For without a separate language in which and by which to express our Irishness and without that link to the past and without all that written and cultural evidence to our place as a separate nation we will get swallowed up by the big killer whale that is Anglo-American. Is that what you want?

Speak to your children in Irish. Use Irish in the home. It is the only way to protect the sovereignty of our nation and our people going forth into the future.

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Fearn
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Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 08:40 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Aidhe! Ba spéisiúil na freagairtí a spreag do bhlag, a choilm.

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Riona
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Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 11:11 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I agree with some of what you say, a Choilm. Irish is really important and if the people let it go forever then they will lose very much indeed. The thing that I would be skeptical about is the idea that not speaking Irish means that someone isn't Irish. But you have the right to say what you want on your own blog. By similar logic, does that mean that if I learn very good Irish and can speak it fluently someday, you'll consider me to be Irish? :)

Beir bua agus beannacht

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Colm (Unregistered Guest)
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I guess I got so tired of beating around the bush on this issue. If we continue to cod ourselves that Irish is "booming" and other such nonsense we will risk loosing it forever for one day we'll wake up and realise that all that was just government propaganda. We need to take a hard long truthful look at the language (and our identity as a nation and people) and not be afraid of stepping on toes on the way to trying to solve this post-colonial identity crisis. We need honest open dialogue on this. I seriously question anyone’s Irishness if they do not value the language and see the need for more than just its symbolic preservation but the need for it to grow and reinstate itself as a dynamic public vernacular.

Colm
http://corcaighist.blogspot.com
http://breacdhaoine.blogspot.com

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Dennis
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Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 12:14 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Más cás leat an Ghaeilge, a Choilm, bain úsáid aisti, maith an fear. Tá sé chomh simplí sin. Níl seanmóir eile i mBéarla ag teastáil uainn. Tá an clár plé seo cráite ag díospóireachtaí fada aon-teangacha (tomhais cén teanga!) ar an gceist "Céard ba cheart dóibh (an rialtas, daoine eile) a dhéanamh chun an teanga a chur i réim arís?" Tá sí i réim anois i measc na ndaoine a úsáideann í.

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Liam ó Briain (Unregistered Guest)
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Colm
I must say that the Irish person who speaks Irish is superior culturally that the monolingual English speaking Irish person. I say this unequivocally and without any hesitation. The Irish speaker is one who speaks the native language of Ireland which has the oldest literature in Europe and is 2000 years old while the english speaker has abandoned our native tongue for English. I also speak Welsh and am a passionate Welsh nationalist in the sense that the Fro Gymraeg or Welsh speaking Heartland is being destroyed by English speaking immigrants who are openly hostile to the language and buy up houses locals can't afford. There has been an attitude among Irish speakers that we can't speak up or give out to English language media such as Kevin Myers among others yet if the nonsense written about Irish speakers was written about any other group there would be outrage. Every Irish person should speak Irish in Ireland and English with tourists or business people. This happens in Netherlands one of my favourite countries who have excellent English and also in Sweden.Neither language is spoken much in other countries Swedish in Finland and Dutch in Netherland Antilles.It really annoys people in Ireland when they meet an Englishman who can spEak Irish or say an American woman who can speak Irish as it shows up the Irish who never bothered to learn the language.The defining characteristic of a nation is it's language and Ireland cods itself that somehow by being able to play the tin whistle or do Irish dancing the Irish person is keeping their culture alive.

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Dennis
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Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 01:29 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Colm & Liam,

Cén fáth a bhfuil sibh ag caint le chéile i mBéarla? Tá sibh beirt in Éirinn. Tá a lán Gaeilge ag a lán de na daoine anseo. Deir sibh go dtaitníonn an teanga seo libh. Cén fáth, mar sin?

(Message edited by dennis on March 13, 2007)

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Eoin
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Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 02:24 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá mé ag ceapadh go bhfuil Liam sa Bhreatain Bheag, Dennis :-)

Agus tá daoine a deireann nach bhfuil Corcaigh in Éirinn ach an oiread! Poblacht neamhspleach atá ann....

Nuacht Ghaeltacht na Gaillimhe agus Deisceart Mhuigheó http://anghaeltacht.net/ce

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Colm (Unregistered Guest)
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A Dennis,
Tá barúil agamsa - is mór an trua é ach 'sí an fhírinne - nuair a labhraítear i nGaeilge ní éisteann éinne agus más bhfuil díospóireacht faoi bhuntáistí na Gaeilge i gceist níl gá ann chun é sin ar chur ar fáil i nGaeilge - folamh ama é. "Ag seanmóireacht leis na hiompaithigh" mar a dheirtear i mBéarla.

Ba mhaith lem' chroí más bhfuil cách in Éirinn ag labhairt i nGaeilge an t-am ar fad agus go raibh sí ina teanga náisiúnta agus is rún dom mo chlann a thógáil le Gaoluinn. Tá grá agam don dteanga agus is mór mo dhíomá nach bhfuil meas nó grá nó suim ag formhór na muintire. :-(

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Dennis
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Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 05:42 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Mo cheol do chuid Gaeilge, a Choilm!
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"Ag seanmóireacht leis na hiompaithigh"

Ach tá chuile dhuine anseo "iompaithe" cheana féin. :-)
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is mór mo dhíomá nach bhfuil meas nó grá nó suim ag formhór na muintire.

Tuigim leat. Ach... ná bíodh an bua ag na bastúin! Dá mhéad Gaeilge atá le cloisteáil agus le feiceáil chuile áit, is ea is fearr é.

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Domhnall
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 05:37 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ach Aye! Daon-Phoblacht Chorcaí - tá an t-léine agam!

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river

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Colm (Unregistered Guest)
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Dá mhéad Gaeilge atá le cloisteáil agus le feiceáil chuile áit, is ea is fearr é.

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Tá. Gabh mo leithscéal. Aontaím leis an méid sin a bhí ráite agat.

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Dennis
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Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:51 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ná bí i do strainséir sna bólaí seo as seo amach! Ba bhreá liom tuilleadh a chloisteáil uait. Feicim go bhfuil an-suim agat i dteangacha eile.

"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."


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Colm (Unregistered Guest)
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Tá suim an mhór agam i gcúrsaí teanga agus ba mhaith liom MA agus PhD a dhéanamh i dteangeolaíocht. Is breá liom a bheith ag taisteal agus ag baint úsáid as mo chuid teanga chun iad a fheabhsú.

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Liam Ó Briain (Unregistered Guest)
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Beatha teanga í a labhairt. Tá sé de rún daingean agam chlann a thógáil le Gaolainn freisin. Ní raibh an dara rogha agam ach Béarla a labhairt agus míse ag fás aníos. Níl aon rogha fós ag a bhformhór muintir na hÉireann Gaeilge nó/agus Béarla a úsáid agus cuirim an milléan ar an Rialtas don chuid is mó nár thug dea-shampla dúinn le Dáil a reachtáil i nGaeilge amháin.Tá Iodáilis á labhairt ag muintir na hIodáil , Francais ag lucht an Fhrainc canataobh faoi Éire?Tá fós sort compleacs íochtaránach mar a dhéarfa i mBéarla ag na hÉireannaigh. Feiceann siad teanga iarsmaí le baint nach beag le cruathan agus bochtanas agus Béarla mar teanga domhanda ach tá an Ísiltír agus an tSualainn ábalta Béarla a thabhairt isteach dos na leanaí in aois a 7 nó 8. Nach smaointe maith é gach bunscoil bheith mar Ghaelscoil go dtí aois 7 ar a laghad agus go deimhin gach naionra. Nilím i gcoinne Béarla nó Spáinnais srl mar tá luach nach beag ag chuile teanga ach táim i gcoinne daoine bogadh go dtí ceantar Breatnais nó Gaeilge gan aon fonn orthu í a fhoghlaim.



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