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I've been reading Franny and Zooey and I've become very interested in the Jesus Prayer, in which one repeats "Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner" incessantly.
I'm starting to learn the irish language and I thought it would help to learn it in Irish.
Here's my attempt at a literal translation:
Tiarna Iosa Chriosta, mac Dia, gabh trocaire ar me, peacach
can someone give me pointers?
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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg
Post Number: 1424
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 09:47 pm: |
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A Thiarna Íosa Chríost, mac Dé, déan trócaire orm, atá i mo pheacach.
-- Fáilte Roimh Cheartú --
Ná húsáidigí focail Béarla agus sibh ag labhairt Gaeilge liom, le bhur dtoil. Ní thabharfaidh mé freagra do theachtaireacht ar bith a bhfuil "Gaeilge" neamhghlan inti.
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2467
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 10:11 pm: |
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Ar chóir do na focail atá i gcomhaisnéis a bheith sa ghairmeach freisin: a Mhic Dé?
"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."
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Liz
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Username: Liz
Post Number: 229
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 12:02 am: |
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"A Thiarna, a Aon-Mhic, a Íosa Críost" gan séimhiú ar an 'C' sa ghairmeach a deirtear sa Ghlóir den Aifreann. |
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2468
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 01:02 am: |
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Maidir leis an gceist a chuir mé, feicim anois nach bhfuil "Mac an Athar" sa ghairmeach in Ord an Aifrinn:
A Thiarna Dia, a Uain Dé, Mac an Athar
"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 4879
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 06:10 am: |
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Toisc gur ráiteas Faoi atá ann, seachas gairm air. |
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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg
Post Number: 1425
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 06:53 am: |
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An gairmeach de "mac Dé" ná "a mhac Dé", seachas "a mhic Dé" (cosúil le "a Fhear na mBróg").
-- Fáilte Roimh Cheartú --
Ná húsáidigí focail Béarla agus sibh ag labhairt Gaeilge liom, le bhur dtoil. Ní thabharfaidh mé freagra do theachtaireacht ar bith a bhfuil "Gaeilge" neamhghlan inti.
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 4884
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 08:31 am: |
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Is dóigh liom go bhfuil tú ar strae, a FnaB. Féach seo: http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ%2CGGLJ%3A2006-39%2CGGLJ%3Aen-GB&q=%22 a+mhic+d%C3%A9%22&meta= Ní bhfuair mé faic nuair a chuardaigh mé "a Mhac Dé" |
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 4885
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 08:42 am: |
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Maidir leis an bpaidir, ag leanacht múnla an Ave Maria http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaeilge/corpus/urnaithe/se_do_bheatha.html A Thiarna Íosa Chríost, mac Dé, déan trócaire ormsa, peacach. Samplaí eile anseo http://www.irishpage.com/patsday/misepadr.htm Mise Pádraig, peacach róthútach, an té is lú de na fíréin go léir, http://vondu.pair.com/daltai/proverbs/weeks/week167.htm Mise Pádraig, peacach gan oiliúint Tá mé sách cinnte gur Padraig Ó Fiannachta a rinne an dara tiontú ón Laidin, agus gach seans an chéad ceann. |
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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg
Post Number: 1426
Registered: 08-2004
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quote:Is dóigh liom go bhfuil tú ar strae, a FnaB. Seans go bhfuil "mac Dé" neamhrialta. . . ní thuigim an fáth go n-athródh sé go "mic".
-- Fáilte Roimh Cheartú --
Ná húsáidigí focail Béarla agus sibh ag labhairt Gaeilge liom, le bhur dtoil. Ní thabharfaidh mé freagra do theachtaireacht ar bith a bhfuil "Gaeilge" neamhghlan inti.
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 4887
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 10:15 am: |
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Ní dóigh liom gur ionann an cás do "Fear (na mBróg)" agus "(Mac Dé)" - aonaid eagsumhla iad, dar liom.
Ach cá bhfios, a Mhic? |
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2470
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:16 am: |
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quote:Seans go bhfuil "mac Dé" neamhrialta. . . ní thuigim an fáth go n-athródh sé go "mic". Tá nóta faoi seo in § 160 in GGBC: Ach a Mhic Dé; a Mhic na Maighdine Muire.
"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."
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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 4889
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:18 am: |
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An bhfuil cúis luaite, a Dhonncha, a Mhic an Rí?  (Message edited by aonghus on January 30, 2007) |
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2472
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:43 am: |
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quote:An bhfuil cúis luaite? Níl. Sin an méid atá ann.
"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."
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Liz
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Username: Liz
Post Number: 232
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 05:37 pm: |
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An ionann 'cúis luaite' agus 'ulterior motive' sa Bhéarla? |
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2480
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 07:59 pm: |
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Ní dóigh liom é, Liz. Ciallaíonn sé "a cause mentioned".
"An seanchas gearr,
an seanchas is fearr."
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Liz
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Username: Liz
Post Number: 233
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 08:55 pm: |
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Go raibh maith agat, Dennis. Bhí 'luaithe' is 'luaite' measctha le chéile agam. |
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