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Daithí (Unregistered Guest)
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 01:40 pm: |   
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Does anyone know the origin of the 'mysterious t' in words such as aithrist, aríst, eicínt (éiginn) etc. that appears in the speech of Cois Fharraige?
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2174
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 03:27 pm: |
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Tá an 't' sin le cloisteáil i gCúige Uladh agus i nGaeilge na hAlban freisin:
a-rithist
a-nist (chomh maith le "a-nis, a-nise")
a-rèist
fhathast
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Daithí (Unregistered Guest)
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 04:12 pm: |
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A Dhennis,
Cén chiall atá ar 'fhathast'?
An bhfuil aon chúis stairiúil ann a bhfuil an 't' sna focla seo, nó nár tharla sé ach de sheans?
Go raibh maith agat as do chuid freagraí.
Daithí
Má tá éinne ag iarraidh an méid a scríobhaim sa nGaeilge a cheartú, beidh mé an-bhuíoch díobh as. GRMA |
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2175
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 08:26 pm: |
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Is ionann "fhathast" agus "fós". Tháinig "fós" ó "beus" na Sean-Ghaeilge, focal a bhfuil dhá shiolla ann: be-us, agus creidim gur tháinig "f(h)athas(t) ón bhfocal céanna. Is minic a bhíonn -th- nó -dh- inmheánach i bhfocail Ghàidhlig a díorthaíodh ó fhocail a raibh dhá shiolla iontu sa tSean-Ghaeilge. Tá an 'th' nó 'dh' seo ann leis an hiatus idir an dá shiolla a chur in iúl. Mar shampla: fitheach < fiach (fiäch nó fi-ach) [raven] adhar < aer (a-er) [air] latha < laa (la-a) [day] Tá stair an fhocail "arís" ar fáil anseo, sa chartlann: http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaeilge/donncha/stair-an-fhocail/ Ach maidir leis an "-t", níl a fhios agam... fós! ;-)
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James_murphy
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Username: James_murphy
Post Number: 65
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 08:38 pm: |
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"Tá an 't' sin le cloisteáil i gCúige Uladh agus i nGaeilge na hAlban freisin"
Faightear i nGaedhilg na Mumhan é. Sílim go gcríochnuightí na hainmneacha briathartha (verbal nouns)a chríochnuigheann anois le '-nt' le '-n' seal Eg.ligin > ligint; tuigsin > tuigsint/tuiscint. Fuaimnightear 'gabháil' mar 'góilt' annsoin go minic, leis.
Séamus Ó Murchadha
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Lughaidh
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Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 1493
Registered: 01-2005
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I dtuaisceart Chúige Uladh, is minic a bíos -t aige deireadh na n-ainmneacha briathartha a chríochnas ar -áil:
fáilt, coinneáilt, fágáilt, srl.
Tír Chonaill abú!
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Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2179
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 12:34 pm: |
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Caithfidh sé gur "viral t" atá ann!
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Domhnall
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Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 702
Registered: 06-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 07, 2007 - 06:17 pm: |
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Mo smaoineamh ná go bhfuil sé níos fusa focail a rá..
Seod é Mícheál
seachas
Seo é mícheál
Agus muintir chonamara ag caint chomh tapaidh sin, tá sé níos fusa ar a dteanga an 'd' sin a chur leis. Bhuel sin mo thuairim pé scéal!
A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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Peter
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Username: Peter
Post Number: 358
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 06:28 am: |
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quote:Seod é Mícheál seobh é Mícheál, chomh maith seod = siúd i limistéir áirid i gConamara (Tá sé seod tinn, etc.)
'Rath Dé agus bail Phádraig ar a bhfeicfidh mé ó éireoidh mé ar maidin go gcodlóidh mé san oíche'
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Domhnall
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Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 712
Registered: 06-2005
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Ceart a'at ansin
Is dóigh liom gurb é sin ^ an rud céanna .i. ag baint litir amach agus dá thoradh bíonn focail níos fusa ar do theanga.
A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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