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Linas
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Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 07:55 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I would like to ask the members of thos board whether someone has tried to learn the Old Irish(Sean-Ghaeilge)?

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Kieran (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 11:26 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Hello you are lucky that Dennis King, an expert in Old Irish, is on this board. He is probably too modest to tell you himself. There is a Yahoo group, sengoidelc, learning irish, but it has gone a bit dead. Maybe you could try to get the owner and members to press on?

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Mac Léinn na Gaeilge (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 11:32 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Check out Dennis' site at http://www.sengoidelc.com/

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Hello you are lucky that Dennis King, an expert in Old Irish, is on this board. He is probably too modest to tell you himself. There is a Yahoo group, sengoidelc, learning irish, but it has gone a bit dead. Maybe you could try to get the owner and members to press on?

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Domhnall
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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 07:40 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Suíomh den scoth é sin.

Is mór ní súigios lesrach banscáile!

(is * great * thing * that absorbs * thighs * of woman)

A woman's thighs can absorb a lot!

~ Yuck ~ ;)

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river

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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 10:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dennis would agree to that!!!
LOL!!!! met him at CC's

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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 10:19 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

local bar in Seattle
LOLOLOLOL

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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 02:12 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Well, Good God, all the more reason for me to get my lazy self down there. I haven't been there in ages!

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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 04:52 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Thanks to the link provided in his thread I have came upon a description of the Old Irish

http://www.archive.org/details/grammaroldirish00oconuoft

I think every learner of Irish should have a glimpse of Old Irish. If he has before thought of Modern Irish as of very difficult language, so after knowing a lit bit of Old Irish he will cry with relief "O, my goodness, how easy and simplified the Modern Irish is".

Besides this psychological fact, some features of Modern Irish can become clearer, when knowing some bits of Old Irish.

However a serious study of OI should be postponed to the time when one aquires good command of modern Irish, or at least good reading knowledge.

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Linas
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 04:54 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

O excuse, the previous message was mine. I forgot to register.

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BRN (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 08:32 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tar éis mo léamh leabhair "Old Irish Paradigms" thosaidh an sistém na n-alt ag cur geal mar bíonn sé níos complex i gcoinne na Gaeilge innú

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Dennis
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 08:05 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dóibh siúd a bhfuil Nua-Ghaeilge acu, tá an leabhar seo an-mhaith:

SeanGhaeilge Gan Dua le Pádraig Ó Fiannachta

Is leabhar beag é (114 leathanach), agus níl sé daor ar chor ar bith. Ceapaim go bhfuil sé ar fáil ó Litriocht.com.

Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.

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Dennis
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 08:07 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

quote:

Well, Good God, all the more reason for me to get my lazy self down there. I haven't been there in ages!

Suimiúil. Ní raibh mé sa teach tábhairne sin riamh. Brón orm.

Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.

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Linas
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Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 03:26 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Some books about Old Irish to be found on www.litriocht.com:

1.A First Old Irish Grammar and Reader
Including an
Introduction to Middle Irish
http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=388 9

2.A Grammar of Old Irish
Rudolf Thurneysen
http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=395 7
The classical work on Old Irish. Not for beginners and the faint of heart :)

3.An Old Irish Primer
http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=4217

4.Early Irish Literature
Myles Dillon
http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=3055
A book not about Old Irish itself but about the literature which has been written in that language

5.Téarmaí Gramadaí na Sean-Ghaeilge
Grammatical Terms of Old Irish
http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=278

6.The Early Irish Verb
http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=370 0
They say it contains the index of verbs. If this index is of the kind that list every unpredictable form of verb in the alphabetic order with the reference to the basic verb form, it is very useful, since such unpredictable forms abound in Old Irish.

7.SeanGhaeilge Gan Dua
(OLd Irish without Difficulty)
http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=108 4
The book mentioned by Dennis. It is really cheap(5 Euro only), however its explanations are written entirely in Modern Irish, not in English

8.Dictionary of the Irish Language
(Comment of litriocht):"This is mostly a dictionary of old and medieval Irish". For advanced scholars.
http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=265

(Message edited by linas on January 04, 2007)

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BRN (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 08:29 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Níl a fhios agam go bhfuil an DIL chomh saor sin! Níl sé ach 62 iuró! Smaoighnigh ma 'nach bhfuil sé, like, 350?'

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Dennis
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Post Number: 2164
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Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 09:33 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Seo leabhar nua eile le cur san áireamh:

Sengoídelc: Old Irish for Beginners le David Stifter

http://www.syracuseuniversitypress.syr.edu/spring-2006/sengoidelc.html

Agus seancheann nach bhfuil ag litriocht.com:

An Introduction to Old Irish le Lehmann & Lehmann

http://www.mla.org/store/CID42/PID137

Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.

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Linas
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Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 10:09 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I would like to add another item to be found on litriocht - the companion volume to Thurneysen's Old Irish Grammar

Old Irish Reader
Texts and Vocabulary
Rudolf Thurneysen
http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=194 4

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Dennis
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Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 10:59 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Linas, a chara,

Ar thug tú súil ar Old-Irish-L fós?

https://listserv.heanet.ie/old-irish-l.html

Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.

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