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Linas
Member Username: Linas
Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 07:55 am: |
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I would like to ask the members of thos board whether someone has tried to learn the Old Irish(Sean-Ghaeilge)? |
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Kieran (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 11:26 am: |
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Hello you are lucky that Dennis King, an expert in Old Irish, is on this board. He is probably too modest to tell you himself. There is a Yahoo group, sengoidelc, learning irish, but it has gone a bit dead. Maybe you could try to get the owner and members to press on? |
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Mac Léinn na Gaeilge (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 11:32 am: |
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Check out Dennis' site at http://www.sengoidelc.com/ |
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Kieran (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 11:35 am: |
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Hello you are lucky that Dennis King, an expert in Old Irish, is on this board. He is probably too modest to tell you himself. There is a Yahoo group, sengoidelc, learning irish, but it has gone a bit dead. Maybe you could try to get the owner and members to press on? |
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Domhnall
Member Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 678 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 07:40 pm: |
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Suíomh den scoth é sin. Is mór ní súigios lesrach banscáile! (is * great * thing * that absorbs * thighs * of woman) A woman's thighs can absorb a lot! ~ Yuck ~ ;) A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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mahoo (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 10:17 pm: |
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Dennis would agree to that!!! LOL!!!! met him at CC's |
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mahoo (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 10:19 pm: |
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local bar in Seattle LOLOLOLOL |
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Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
Member Username: Domhnall_Ó_h_aireachtaigh
Post Number: 131 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 02:12 am: |
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Well, Good God, all the more reason for me to get my lazy self down there. I haven't been there in ages! |
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(Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 04:52 am: |
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Thanks to the link provided in his thread I have came upon a description of the Old Irish http://www.archive.org/details/grammaroldirish00oconuoft I think every learner of Irish should have a glimpse of Old Irish. If he has before thought of Modern Irish as of very difficult language, so after knowing a lit bit of Old Irish he will cry with relief "O, my goodness, how easy and simplified the Modern Irish is". Besides this psychological fact, some features of Modern Irish can become clearer, when knowing some bits of Old Irish. However a serious study of OI should be postponed to the time when one aquires good command of modern Irish, or at least good reading knowledge. |
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Linas
Member Username: Linas
Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 04:54 am: |
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O excuse, the previous message was mine. I forgot to register. |
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BRN (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 08:32 am: |
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Tar éis mo léamh leabhair "Old Irish Paradigms" thosaidh an sistém na n-alt ag cur geal mar bíonn sé níos complex i gcoinne na Gaeilge innú |
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2156 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 08:05 pm: |
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Dóibh siúd a bhfuil Nua-Ghaeilge acu, tá an leabhar seo an-mhaith: SeanGhaeilge Gan Dua le Pádraig Ó Fiannachta Is leabhar beag é (114 leathanach), agus níl sé daor ar chor ar bith. Ceapaim go bhfuil sé ar fáil ó Litriocht.com. Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2157 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 08:07 pm: |
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quote:Well, Good God, all the more reason for me to get my lazy self down there. I haven't been there in ages! Suimiúil. Ní raibh mé sa teach tábhairne sin riamh. Brón orm. Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.
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Linas
Member Username: Linas
Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 03:26 am: |
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Some books about Old Irish to be found on www.litriocht.com: 1.A First Old Irish Grammar and Reader Including an Introduction to Middle Irish http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=388 9 2.A Grammar of Old Irish Rudolf Thurneysen http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=395 7 The classical work on Old Irish. Not for beginners and the faint of heart :) 3.An Old Irish Primer http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=4217 4.Early Irish Literature Myles Dillon http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=3055 A book not about Old Irish itself but about the literature which has been written in that language 5.Téarmaí Gramadaí na Sean-Ghaeilge Grammatical Terms of Old Irish http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=278 6.The Early Irish Verb http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=370 0 They say it contains the index of verbs. If this index is of the kind that list every unpredictable form of verb in the alphabetic order with the reference to the basic verb form, it is very useful, since such unpredictable forms abound in Old Irish. 7.SeanGhaeilge Gan Dua (OLd Irish without Difficulty) http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=108 4 The book mentioned by Dennis. It is really cheap(5 Euro only), however its explanations are written entirely in Modern Irish, not in English 8.Dictionary of the Irish Language (Comment of litriocht):"This is mostly a dictionary of old and medieval Irish". For advanced scholars. http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=265 (Message edited by linas on January 04, 2007) |
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BRN (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 08:29 am: |
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Níl a fhios agam go bhfuil an DIL chomh saor sin! Níl sé ach 62 iuró! Smaoighnigh ma 'nach bhfuil sé, like, 350?' |
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2164 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 09:33 am: |
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Seo leabhar nua eile le cur san áireamh: Sengoídelc: Old Irish for Beginners le David Stifter http://www.syracuseuniversitypress.syr.edu/spring-2006/sengoidelc.html Agus seancheann nach bhfuil ag litriocht.com: An Introduction to Old Irish le Lehmann & Lehmann http://www.mla.org/store/CID42/PID137 Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.
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Linas
Member Username: Linas
Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 10:09 am: |
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I would like to add another item to be found on litriocht - the companion volume to Thurneysen's Old Irish Grammar Old Irish Reader Texts and Vocabulary Rudolf Thurneysen http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=194 4 |
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 2166 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 10:59 am: |
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Linas, a chara, Ar thug tú súil ar Old-Irish-L fós? https://listserv.heanet.ie/old-irish-l.html Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.
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