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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 1490 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 09:16 pm: |
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Haigh a chairde agus athbhliain faoi mhaise daoibh go léir (tá sé 3.00 rn anseo anois) ! Chuala mé go mbeadh stádas ofaigiúil aige’n Ghaeilg ins an Aontas Eorpach ón 1d lá do Mhí Eanáir amach. Cad chuighe nach bhfaca mé trácht ar bith air sin in áit ar bith, ar ’Beo’ féin, ná anseo dar liom ? Nach scéala tábhachtach é ? (Summary in English) Happy New Year to all of you! I head that Irish would get an official status in the EU from the 1st of January on. Why isn't there any article or stuff about that, even on 'Beo' or here? Isn't it a great piece of news? Tír Chonaill abú!
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Mac Léinn na Gaeilge (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 11:29 am: |
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Why isn't there any article or stuff about that, even on 'Beo' or here? B'fhéidir tá póit ag 'chuile dhuine innui? (Just kidding) Agus athbhliain faoi mhaise dhuit freisin. |
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Ceolmhar
Member Username: Ceolmhar
Post Number: 151 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 01:54 pm: |
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Click here for various news items "Ireland's MEPs and Commissioner will be allowed to speak it during official business." Does this mean that MEPs will actually use Irish from now on, or will they just speak English as to not 'inconvenience' the other EU members? No roads were elevated during the composition of this message.
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Grumpy Old Fogey (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 02:38 pm: |
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Of the sixteen MEPs from Ireland, north and south, I have only heard four giving interviews in Irish on radio or television. Given that politicians will normally walk over hot coals for the opportunity of a ten second sound bite, I think it's safe to say that twelve of them don't have enough Irish to be able to communicate in it - although there is a possibility that one or two of them might be able to read it from a prepared script. Of the other four, Seán Ó Neachtain (FF) is a native speaker, Bairbre de Brún (SF) is a fluent speaker, Jim Higgins (FG) is quite good, and Proinsias de Rossa (Labour) is just about passable. (It's an odd coincidence that the four main parties all manage to have one MEP who is able to participate in RnaG or TG4 discussions about the EU). Will any of them speak Irish in the parliament? I would expect Ó Neachtain and de Brún to do so. Higgins might. I doubt if de Rossa will. If any of the others do so it will be nothing more than a charade. |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 4552 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 03:50 pm: |
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Sean scéal atá ann, a Lughaidh, rinneadh an socrú i bhfad ó shin, agus bhí plé sna méain air ag an am. |
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Domhnall
Member Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 680 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 07:56 pm: |
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O'Cuív; "But I also think it is important to see the Irish language as the oldest vernacular language that is still spoken in the European Union that is basically the same language that was there 2,000 years ago.” I thought there was one other language that was older than An Ghaeilge? De Brún will of course.. Was it not O Neachtain who gave out before because of perhaps De Brun speaking as Gaeilge in the parliment? A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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Mac Léinn na Gaeilge (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 08:04 pm: |
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quote:I thought there was one other language that was older than An Ghaeilge? An Ghréigis, nach ea? |
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Domhnall
Member Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 683 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 08:06 pm: |
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Ceapaim é.. Bhuel sin a bhí ar mo intinn pé scéal! A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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Mac Léinn na Gaeilge (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 08:18 pm: |
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Nil fhios agam, act b'fhéidir duirt O'Cuiv é sin thuas os comhair a raibh an Ghréig sa Aontacht Eorpach? FRC-GRMA |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 4563 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 06:51 am: |
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Ní hea. Teanga eile atá sa Ghréigís nua! Pé scéal é, bolscaireacht atá i gceist. Bhí píosa ar Nuacht RTÉ aréir, agus Colleen Dollard an tí seo mar "Eachtrannach le gaeilge" |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 1491 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 07:20 am: |
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Agus a Aonghuis, an síleann tú gurb iad a’ teangaidh chéarna a’ tSean-Ghaeilg agus a’ Nua-Ghaeilg? Leagan nua-aimseartha don tSean-Ghaeilg a’ Nua-Ghaeilg, agus leagan nua-aimseartha don tSean-Ghréigis a’ Nua-Ghréigis, sin a’ méid. Tír Chonaill abú!
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BRN (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 07:36 am: |
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"But I also think it is important to see the Irish language as the oldest vernacular language that is still spoken in the European Union that is basically the same language that was there 2,000 years ago" Why is this nonscence trotted out constantly? How is the Celtic tongue of 2000 years ago the same as Irish today? Do they have documents? I see this as part of the charade which claim Irish is a strong vernacular with not a shade of threat, almost as if by saying it is static, one is saying it is beyonf time and change/threat. It's all corospondance magick Basque has the clearest claim, given its non-Indoeuropean classification |
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Linas
Member Username: Linas
Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 07:50 am: |
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Aonghus wrote:[Ní hea. Teanga eile atá sa Ghréigís nua!] Modern Greek has the same relation to Old Greek as Modern Irish with Old Irish. So if Ó Cuív meant that Irish is the same that it was 2000 years ago, it would be also possible to say that the Greek now is the same that it was 3000 years ago in the times of Homeros. I think that the distance between Homeric Greek and Modern Demotic Greek may be even less that between Old Irish and Modern Irish. Maybe Ó Cuív said these words before 1981, or more likely he(or these who quoted him) just forgot to add - "in the Northern side of the Alpes". |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 4566 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 08:29 am: |
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Scríobh mé quote:Pé scéal é, bolscaireacht atá i gceist quote:Do they have documents? Going back to the 6th Century, yes, which is further back than any other Western European language. It is just one of those quotes bandied about, which has a kernel of truth... Milis an teanga an Ghaedhealg, Guth gan chabhair choigcricíche, Glór, géar-chaoin, glé, glinn, gasta suairc, séimhidhe, sult-bhlasta. Gide Eabhra teanga is seanda, gide laidean is léigheanta, uatha uirthi níor frith linn fuaim nó focal de chomhainn. Maidir leis an scéal seo: http://www.gaelport.com/index.php?page=clippings&id=1596&viewby=date quote:Irish became an official and working language in the European Union yesterday, more than two years after the Government first tabled a proposal in Brussels seeking the status. Agus scéal míchruinn eile anseo http://www.gaelport.com/index.php?page=clippings&id=1593&viewby=date quote:The full implementation of Irish as an official and working language of the European Union, which was due to come into effect yesterday, has been delayed because the Government has failed to recruit enough interpreters. Is cosúil nach bhfuil Béarla ró mhaith ag na hiriseoirí seo nach dtuigeann an difríocht idir aistriú agus ateangaireacht! |
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BRN (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 08:39 am: |
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bhuel, tá an difríocht mór idir am an t-Íosa 'is 'am an Chaoimhe', agus cheapaim go bhfuil teangaí an Dhomhain difríocht freisin! |
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