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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2006 (November-December) » Archive through December 29, 2006 » Forming Irish Sounds « Previous Next »

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Hscottgraves
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 09:18 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

A chara,

I'm using a program (BYKI.com) whose audio component reveals sounds I don't naturally form in English. Specifically they sounds like at D & TH combined as in:

Dé Déardaoin = Thursday
I hear it right after Déar is pronounced. Sounds like "dare-dtheen" to me.

Another one that gets me are the T sounds between dhúirt & tú in the phrase:

Céard a dhúirt tú
It's almost like the first T drags a bit. When I say it it sounds like "dort too" (too choppy and separate) but when the speaker says it it sounds like "dortt-too" and the T sounds blend together.

The trouble with both of these sounds is that with whatever command of english I have, I just can't reproduce these sounds. I can approximate them, but the approximation sounds too primative.

I might be asking the impossible, but does anyone know of an on-line resource that describes how to form these sounds. For instance, "hold flatttend tounge behind front teeth and exhale.."

Slán,
Scott

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Hscottgraves
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 12:23 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In true schizo-form, I'm beginning to answer my own question. I found a site which details the formation of sounds within the mouth as their material is without an audio component. With any luck, as I progress, I'll find these sounds I have trouble with:

http://www.irishpage.com/irishpeople/Lesson2.htm

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Mickrua
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 08:55 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Céard a dhúirt tú? " is grammitically incorrect
it should be "Céard a dúirt tú?"
Should be spoken with this breathing pattern
DooH (exhale)- irt (inhale) tooh(exhale)

(Message edited by mickrua on December 09, 2006)

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Hscottgraves
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Go raibh maith agat Mickrua. Correct spelling in my naitve language eludes me and is contaminating my Irish!

Ahh! That little inhale DOES make a difference. Thanks.

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BRN (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 08:59 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

By 'inhale', do you mean 'change stress'?



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