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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2006 (September-October) » Archive through October 18, 2006 » Emer nó eimear? « Previous Next »

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Rud_ar_bith
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Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 11:01 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Emer an t-ainm atá ar mo dheirfiur agus tá cara agam darbh ainm Eimear.deireann sí gurb é 'Eimear' an litriú is sine. so which one is older? is Emer the anglicized form? cuidiú liom!!!

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Llorcan
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Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Rud_ar_bith,
I think Emer is the original Old Irish spelling and Eimear is a modern spelling.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 04:30 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Émer atá ag Ó Corráin agus Maguire.

I agree with Llorcan

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Domhnall
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Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 04:47 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Emer!

A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river

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Dennis
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Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 08:50 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Emer" an litriú Sean-Ghaeilge, ceart go leor. "Eimhear" atá ceart i nGaeilge an lae inniu, ó bhí an m sin séimhithe riamh. Mar shampla, ón scéal "Tochmharc Eimhire" sa leabhar Laochas le Séamus Ó Searcaigh:

Eimhear ab ainm di...

Bhí sé buanna ag Eimhear...

Thug sé cuairt ar Eimhear...

Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.

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BRN (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 06:56 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

And for the benifit of the original poster, Dennis is saying that 'Eimhear' is the more modern form, due to medial lenition

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Rud_ar_bith
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 08:01 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

aye, bhi a fhios agam. so ba cheart fada a bheith ar an 'E' sa sean litriú? go raibh maith agat Dennis.

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 02:47 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

And even in Old Irish, the middle m in Emer was pronounced as a /v'/. That's why writing Eimear is nonsense and pronouncing "ee-mar" is nonsense too (but unfortunately many girls are called like that, even Irish teachers!).

A Rud ar bith, níl e fada ar bith ins an ainm "Eimhear" ná in "Emer".

Both Eimhear and Emer should be pronounced almost like English "ever" (but with a one-tap alveolar r at the end).

Tír Chonaill abú!

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Suaimhneas
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 07:12 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I've come across dozens of Emers and Eimears and without exception they have pronounced it "Ee-mar". I'm sure they would be all be amazed to find they are speaking nonsense when they give their name (but then they probably don't understand what a one-tap alveolar r is!)

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Dennis
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 08:02 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Agus tá NYE-ull ann le haghaidh gach EE-mar sa saol atá inniu ann.
O tempora! O mores!

Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.

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Suaimhneas
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 05:34 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Tá an cheart agat, a Dhennis. Tá NYE-ull ann go deimhin, ach tá na NEE-uls ann chomh maith. Ach nior chuala mé ach EE-mar riamh

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BRN (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 05:47 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"And for the benifit of the original poster, Dennis is saying that 'Eimhear' is the more modern form, due to medial lenition"

If we were in court I could say that I was still correct -more modern, but i never said compared to when :?)



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