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Rud_ar_bith
Member Username: Rud_ar_bith
Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 11:01 am: |
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Emer an t-ainm atá ar mo dheirfiur agus tá cara agam darbh ainm Eimear.deireann sí gurb é 'Eimear' an litriú is sine. so which one is older? is Emer the anglicized form? cuidiú liom!!! |
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Llorcan
Member Username: Llorcan
Post Number: 25 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 12:27 pm: |
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Rud_ar_bith, I think Emer is the original Old Irish spelling and Eimear is a modern spelling. |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 3929 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 04:30 pm: |
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Émer atá ag Ó Corráin agus Maguire. I agree with Llorcan |
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Domhnall
Member Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 579 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 04:47 pm: |
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Emer! A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 1782 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 08:50 pm: |
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"Emer" an litriú Sean-Ghaeilge, ceart go leor. "Eimhear" atá ceart i nGaeilge an lae inniu, ó bhí an m sin séimhithe riamh. Mar shampla, ón scéal "Tochmharc Eimhire" sa leabhar Laochas le Séamus Ó Searcaigh: Eimhear ab ainm di... Bhí sé buanna ag Eimhear... Thug sé cuairt ar Eimhear... Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.
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BRN (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 06:56 am: |
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And for the benifit of the original poster, Dennis is saying that 'Eimhear' is the more modern form, due to medial lenition |
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Rud_ar_bith
Member Username: Rud_ar_bith
Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 08:01 am: |
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aye, bhi a fhios agam. so ba cheart fada a bheith ar an 'E' sa sean litriú? go raibh maith agat Dennis. |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 1459 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 02:47 pm: |
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And even in Old Irish, the middle m in Emer was pronounced as a /v'/. That's why writing Eimear is nonsense and pronouncing "ee-mar" is nonsense too (but unfortunately many girls are called like that, even Irish teachers!). A Rud ar bith, níl e fada ar bith ins an ainm "Eimhear" ná in "Emer". Both Eimhear and Emer should be pronounced almost like English "ever" (but with a one-tap alveolar r at the end). Tír Chonaill abú!
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Suaimhneas
Member Username: Suaimhneas
Post Number: 90 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 07:12 pm: |
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I've come across dozens of Emers and Eimears and without exception they have pronounced it "Ee-mar". I'm sure they would be all be amazed to find they are speaking nonsense when they give their name (but then they probably don't understand what a one-tap alveolar r is!) |
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 1784 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 08:02 pm: |
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Agus tá NYE-ull ann le haghaidh gach EE-mar sa saol atá inniu ann. O tempora! O mores! Caminante no hay camino, se hace camino al andar.
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Suaimhneas
Member Username: Suaimhneas
Post Number: 92 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 05:34 am: |
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Tá an cheart agat, a Dhennis. Tá NYE-ull ann go deimhin, ach tá na NEE-uls ann chomh maith. Ach nior chuala mé ach EE-mar riamh |
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BRN (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 05:47 am: |
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"And for the benifit of the original poster, Dennis is saying that 'Eimhear' is the more modern form, due to medial lenition" If we were in court I could say that I was still correct -more modern, but i never said compared to when :?) |
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