Hi,
I have friends in Northern Ireland who are of the Loyalist persuasion and when we get together there is always a lot of banter and good natured fun.
We usually have a 'sing-song' and where I usually give a couple of Irish traditional ones my friend almost always sings The Sash.
I was wondering if anyone could translate this song for me so that the next time we get together I can sing a song my friend loves in a language I love!
Thanks in advance

Éadaoin


The Lyrics
Sure I'm an Ulster Orangeman, from Erin's isle I came,
To see my British brethren all of honour and of fame,
And to tell them of my forefathers who fought in days of yore,
That I might have the right to wear, the sash my father wore!

(Chorus) It is old but it is beautiful, and its colours they are fine,
It was worn at Derry, Aughrim, Enniskillen and the Boyne,
My father wore it as a youth in bygone days of yore,
And it's on the Twelfth I love to wear the sash my father wore


For those brave men who crossed the Boyne have not fought or died in vain,
Our Unity, Religion, Laws, and Freedom to maintain,
If the call should come we'll follow the drum, and cross that river once more,
That tomorrow's Ulsterman may wear the sash my father wore!


And when some day, across the sea to Antrim's shore you come,
We'll welcome you in royal style, to the sound of flute and drum,
And Ulster's hills shall echo still, from Rathlin to Dromore,
As we sing again the loyal strain of the sash my father wore!

Tá leagan Gaeilge den amhrán ann cheana.
Cá bhfuil fáil air, ní mé?

Uhm sorry but I'm gonna be rude here....
I last spoke Irish about 10+yrs ago and even then I wasnt very good at it!!!
I think you're asking me something about the song? and where is something?!?
Sorry my language skills are atrocious. Doesn't help that I'm currently living in TRNC and trying to learn Turkish!!!

Éadaoin

In the coláiste samhraidh in Arainn Mhóir many years ago, the Belfast daltaí used to sing a version as gaeilge. But I'm not sure whether it was a translation, a parody or totally different lyrics to the same air. I'm sure there's a version knocking around in West Belfast!

Is dóigh go bhfuil sé i leabhar a chuir Seán de Fréine amach tamall maith de bhlianta ó shoin. Ní chuimhin liom a ainm. Stórchiste de seoid Gaeilge a bhí ann. An raibhan focal "croí" sa tideal?

Uhm again apologies for the poor understanding of your post Fe_ann but......
I think you're saying its in a book by Sean de Freine that came out a few years ago but you dont know the name of it? And also you're asking if "heart" or "love" is in the title?
As far as I know the title is
"The sash my father wore" or just "The sash"

Éadaoin

A Éadaoin,
B'é ainm an leabhair nach raibh ag rith chugam.

"Croí Cine" le Seán de Fréine. An Clóchomhar

Ok it took me awhile but I guess what you're saying is that I'll maybe find the translation in a book called "Croi Cine" by Sean de Freine.
Thank you for you're help :-)

Next time I'm in a country where the postal service exists or where they have bookstores (any books English Irish Turkish) then I'll try to get it. (The postal service in Northern Cyprus is so bad it doesnt exsist {neither does the country!!!} and there are no bookstores on this side of the island).

Until then I guess I'll just learn the English version :-(

Thank you again for you're help
Éadaoin

Éadaoin, muna bhfaigheann tú aistriúchán air d'fhéadfá é a chanadh i bhfonn Seán South from Garryowen. Ba ghnách le ma'thair sin a dhéanamh nuair a thiocfadh mo chuid cairdre anuas ón Tuaisceart agus é ag spochadh astu.

Jamie, I am so sorry for being rude but I havent the faintest idea what you just said!!! Sorry!!!
Éadaoin

I dont want to be rude, but I dont think you'll get any help from people in the Republic.

Why not? Its not as bad as the usual "when my heart of hearts peers into your world, together we will be" (or something!)

A Eadaoin a chara,

Don't you be minding, the reason they are speaking Irish to you is because they want you to try and figure it out since you know some, they're not doing it to snub you.

I think your friend would think your translation search was nice and its nice that the both of you can sing different songs with each other, even if you may not both agree on their philosophies.

Hopefully you can get hold of that book.

Beir bua agus beannacht

Spicydragon

I am one of the 'people in the Republic'... Dublin born and bred. Crumlin to be precise, one of the oldest villages in Dublin. I would have thought that the open minded people on this board would understand what I was trying to do and perhaps get a kick out of translating a song predominantly sung by people who have never spoken a word of Irish in their lives.

Éadaoin

I havent spoken Irish in a very long time and had a problem learning it in school as I have dyslexia (why is that so hard to spell!!). It is a beautiful language and I truly wish I could speak it.

I appreciate the help I have been offered on this board and will try to find the book when I am next in Ireland.

Thank you all for your help.

Éadaoin

A Chara,
It was orginally an irish song called 'my sweet irish mollie o' it was also an american civil rights song 'the hat my father wore'....

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A Éadaoin,
Go ndéana a mhaith dhuit.
Ná bí buartha i dtaobh na Gaeilge ná do chuid diosleicsia. I steanga álainn an béarla leis. Níl a chaill air.
Beir bua

I want to get the word passionate, about life and people, as a tattoo, but want to make sure it is proporly translated, if anyone can help me please let me know...thanks

díocasach - that might do.

Céard a cheapann sibh? An bhfuil focal eile againn a bheadh níos fearr ná an ceann seo? Tá paiseanta ann, ach ciallaíonn sé sin "feargach". (Just confering here, Michelle.)

N'fheadar.

díocas [ainmfhocal firinscneach den chéad díochlaonadh]
fonn mór, flosc, cíocras.

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Tugtha don saol

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It's hard to get a single word with the same meaning.

"Óg" ? ;-)