mainoff.gif
lastdyoff.gif
lastwkoff.gif
treeoff.gif
searchoff.gif
helpoff.gif
contactoff.gif
creditsoff.gif
homeoff.gif


The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2006 (July-August) » Archive through July 26, 2006 » "go" « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Odwyer
Member
Username: Odwyer

Post Number: 118
Registered: 05-2006


Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 10:34 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Cén fáth déanann "go" teag sol má roinnt briathar? Cuidiú le do thoil.

Le do thoil ceartaigh mo Ghaeilge!

Agus... Ceárd is brí litriúil "Ach a oiread"?

Go raibh maith agat

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Aonghus
Member
Username: Aonghus

Post Number: 3458
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 04:05 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ach an oiread - either

"Cén fáth déanann "go" teag sol má roinnt briathar"

You've lost me, I'm afraid.

Cén fáth go ndéanann "go" ? ? ? roinnt briathar

why does "go" ? ? ? some verbs?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Lughaidh
Member
Username: Lughaidh

Post Number: 1375
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 09:03 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I think he meant "Why does "go" come before certain verbs?" (bhí ort an abairt a dh’aistriú go Béarla focal ar fhocal ;-) ).

The right sentence would be
"Cén fáth a mbíonn "go" roimh roinnt briathra?".
"Sol má" is only used before verbs, never before nouns.

O Dwyer, could you please give examples, because there are many contexts in which you would have "go" before verbs, and there are several "go"'s...

Ach a oiread means "except its amount" literally.

"Cén fáth" is normally followed by "a + eclipsis". Using "go" instead of it is a Munsterism... but in Munster, "why" is "cad ina thaobh", so "cén fáth go" is kinda mix of dialects.

Tír Chonaill abú!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Odwyer
Member
Username: Odwyer

Post Number: 122
Registered: 05-2006


Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 02:05 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I think he meant "Why does "go" come before certain verbs?"

Yeah, that's what I meant. Sometimes "go" appears before verbs, why is this?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Lars
Member
Username: Lars

Post Number: 66
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 02:30 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

In English sometimes "that" appears before verbs.
Deir sé go bhfuil ocras air = He says that he is hungry.

In wishes "go" with subjunctive renders English "may":
Go raibh maith agat = May good be at you (lit.: That be good at you)

That's it. Except some instances where "go" means "until" and some other idiomatic usages.

(Message edited by Lars on July 25, 2006)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Maidhc_Ó_g
Member
Username: Maidhc_Ó_g

Post Number: 241
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 09:26 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I think "go", in this question, is the 'dependant verbal particle'; which causes eclipse. It translates as "that" when used in this way.

Mar sampla.
Cheapim go dthiocfadh sé linn. I thought (that) he'd come with us.

The dependant form is one which cannot stand alone as a statement.

The independant form can stand by itself as a statement. And it is with the independant form where the particle "a" - meaning 'that, which or who/whom' is attached to the beginning of the verb which is also lenited*.

Mar sampla.
Cheapim go raibh sé an fear athiocfadh linn. I thought (that) he was the man who would come with us.

* Except with the autonomous form.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Odwyer
Member
Username: Odwyer

Post Number: 124
Registered: 05-2006


Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 09:11 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

GRMA!



©Daltaí na Gaeilge