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Redev
Member Username: Redev
Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 05:49 am: |
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Apologies, I'm new here and my Irish is poor so I aint even going to try to write in Irish - yet! I'm an Australian citizen who'd love to start afresh in the Irish Republic. I thought with my Irish ancestry I would be a reasonable chance to obtain an Irish passport. But I hit a snag - the registration snag. My old man's paternal grandfather was born in County Cavan, his maternal grandfather was born in County Tipperary. It seems likely my old dear's paternal grandfather and grandmother were born in what became the Irish Republic as well. At the least I have two Irish great grandparents, at the most four. I looked at the registration biz facts and was disappointed to find that my father should have registered himself and registered his two kids (me and my brother) if we were to have any hope of obtaining an Irish passport. What I'd like to know - is there a way around this such as some regulation that waives this or some new initiative? I'm sure I'm not the only one but I'm disappointed to find out about the registration as I grew up in a real Irish-Australian culture. Virtually everybody in my family married into families whose great grandparents came out from the old Northern and Southern Ireland. But it seems there's no hope for me. Am I correct or is there some info that is well concealed from the public at large regarding the criteria to obtain an Irish passport? Thanks! |
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Student of Irish Citizenry (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 08:43 am: |
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A Redev, a chara, I obtained my Irish citizenship a few years ago, and the application package clearly indicated that if you are relying on ancestry for Irish citizenship, you had to have a grandparent that was born on the island of Ireland (Republic of Ireland or Northern Ireland). After obtaining my citizenship, I was then able to apply for an Irish passport. Persons, like my father, whose mother was born on the island of Ireland are automatically Irish citizens, so he just had to apply for a passport (with supporting documentation of course). The other ways involve residency requirements and special application, which I don't think you were referring to in your posting above. That's all I know about the process, maybe someone else has better news. |
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Antaine
Member Username: Antaine
Post Number: 774 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 07:02 pm: |
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your father doesn't have to, and according to current rules, as he wasn't born there himself it wouldn't help you anyway. for ancestry purposes there is a distinction drawn between 'irish citizen' and 'irish citizen born on the island or ireland or any of its islands' your father could have registered before your birth, but you still couldn't claim citizenship as he doesn't fall into the second category. |
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Sayitaintso
Member Username: Sayitaintso
Post Number: 20 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 02:39 am: |
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If you can't be become an Irish citizen through ancestery, you could always just move here on a work permit, and apply for citizenship later on, i cant imagine it would be that hard. |
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Antaine
Member Username: Antaine
Post Number: 775 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 12:14 pm: |
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ah, but that's provided you can get a work permit for longer than five years. they seem inclined to purposely exclude americans from meeting the qualifications. but now i wonder, if you achieve fluency in gaeilge, and apply for a job for which fluency in irish is a requirement, does that not eliminate a fantastic amount of the eu (and native) competition for the post, and making the company more inclined to jump through the hoops necessary for you to get the permit? learning irish may actually be your key to irish citizenship under those circumstances, as had been joked about several months back here... [strokes beard with a pensive look] hmmm.... |
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Odwyer
Member Username: Odwyer
Post Number: 38 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
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That was my hope - that they'd let me in if I spoke Gaelic. |
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Antaine
Member Username: Antaine
Post Number: 776 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 10:12 pm: |
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well, my proposed method is not quite *that* simple |
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Riona
Member Username: Riona
Post Number: 260 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 12:28 am: |
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Student Of... a chara You managed to get citizenship, you're so confounded fortunate, thats neat |
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Student Of... (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 10:25 am: |
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A Riona, a chara, "Student Of..." Hey, I like that, it has a nice ring to it. :) Tá tú ceart, I am so gosh-darn confounded. Oh yeah, and fortunate to.:) A chairde, I like Antaine's idea of going the Gaeilge route. When I took a course at Oideas Gael, which I highly recommend, there were many young Irish people taking the class so that they could pass the Irish proficiency test and become teachers. I was suprised how my classes at Daltaí put me on par with many of the college students who took Irish for years in school. I know that it sounds like I'm bragging, but it's really a tribute to Daltaí's teachers. A Antaine, a chara, since you're already a teacher, maybe that would work for you? |
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Riona
Member Username: Riona
Post Number: 268 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 06:34 pm: |
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Bragging isn't so bad when you have the bragging rights, which it seems you do. You're juststating truth after all. Beir bua agus beannacht |
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Fe arn (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 08:54 am: |
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Tá slí eile le pas Éireannach d'fháil: US$1,000,000 a íoc le rialtas na hÉireann. |
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Fear_na_mbróg
Member Username: Fear_na_mbróg
Post Number: 1153 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 09:40 am: |
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quote:Tá slí eile le pas Éireannach d'fháil: US$1,000,000 a íoc le rialtas na hÉireann. Cár chuala tú faoi sin? An bhfuil aon eolas faoi ar fáil ar an idirlíon? Fáilte Roimh Cheartúcháin Ceartaigh rud ar bith atá mícheart -- úsáid phrásaí go háirithe.
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Fe arn (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 09:59 am: |
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Bhí sé riamh ann, ach ar gos íseal. Is faoi rialtas aon tír a rá cé dó a thabharfadh sé pas, agus cé dó a bhronnfadh sé saorántacht. D'oibrigh deontas mór an cleas seo riamh. Má tá a thuilleadh eolais uait, molaim duit ceist a chur ar oifig an Thoisigh más i leith na hÉireann atá tú, nó tá sé ann i leith an-chuid tíortha. |
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 1474 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 10:49 am: |
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Céard a tharla do Mhohamed al-Fayed, úinéir Harrods, a bhí ag iarraidh saoránacht Bhriotanach a fháil? Bhí lear mór airgid (an t-óstán Ritz i bPáras san áireamh), ach diúltaíodh é ina ainneoin sin! |
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Fe arn (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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Is dóigh go bhfaighfeadh sé pas Éireannach ach é a iarraidh ( ar airgead ) ach ní shin a bhí uaidh. Dar ndóigh, bheith istigh ar chinseal na Breataine a bhí á lorg aige. |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 3275 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 06:52 am: |
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Bhuel, chaill sé an deis sin nuair a bhréag a mhac bean chathail na gcluas. |
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 1483 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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quote:bean Chathail na gcluas Úf. Ach bhíos ag smaoineamh ar an rann seo a leanas a úsáid mar "sig". Tá sé le cloisteáil san amhrán "Le Bonheur" le Marina Fois (du Film "filles perdues cheveux gras") : Quand rien ne va Je pense à Diana J'suis pas comme elle J'verrai l'bout du tunnel |
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 1485 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 02:59 pm: |
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Ós ag fonóid faoi "Chathal na gcluas" atá muid, bheadh "Cathal na blagaide" chomh oiriúnach céanna. Tá spota mór maol ar chúl a chinn nach bhfeictear sna grianghrafanna de ghnáth -- ach tá sé ann. Chonaic mé an prionsa uair amháin ag Monte Albán i México beagnach 15 bliana ó shin, ón taobh thiar. BIG surprise! Ach féach an ceann seo: http://www.balticsww.com/prince-_-charles.jpg |
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Fe arn (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 05:39 am: |
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Rugadh Spike Milligan san Ind, más buan mo chuimhne. Ba Éireannach a athair ina shaighdiúr in arm na breataine. Níos déanaí ina shaol, chur breith ar phas Breataineach bhí ar Spike móid dílseachta a dhéanamh don Bhanríon. Dhiúltaigh sé mar ní raibh ar Bhreatainigh eile móid dílseachta a thabhairt. Dúirt Cathal na Breataine Bige leis áfach ós rud é go raibh air féin móid dílseachta a thabhairt dá mháthair nach gcuirfeadh an beart céanna lá stró ar Spike. Fuair Spike pas Éireannach cé nár chuir sé faoi in Éirinn riamh go bhfios dom |
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