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Dobhair
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Username: Dobhair

Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 08:10 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Khaire & Blessings~
Hi all :) I am a complete beginner at Irish but I am very interested in learning the language. Also I was wondering about the correct pronunciation of the word "dobhair"...it means a lot to me personally.

Namaste*

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Peter
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Username: Peter

Post Number: 115
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 11:17 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Namaste, a chara!

The word is 'dobhar' if you mean 'water' (another word for that is 'uisce'). I'm used to hearing it pronounced as /do:r/ (close to the English 'door', but with /r/ similar to that of Indian English, I'd say). 'Dobhair' (plural form) sounds like /do:r'/ (/r'/ close to 'y' in yes).

Peter

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Odwyer
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Username: Odwyer

Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 04:27 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I thought bh=v. Am I wrong?

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James
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Username: James

Post Number: 353
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 06:48 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

bh = a rough "v" sound at the beginning of a word with few exceptions. In the middle of a word it takes more of a "w" sound...usually.

Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón.

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Dobhair
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Username: Dobhair

Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 10:34 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Khaire~
Thanks for that guys! ;)

Namaste*

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Peter
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Username: Peter

Post Number: 119
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 11:48 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

You are both right, guys, of course. So the word can be pronounced as /daur/ (like Dow (in Dow Jones) + rrrrrrrrrr ;), for /o/+/v/ turns into a diphthong. But the thing is, the well known place name Gaoth Dobhair is rendered into English as Gweedore. /do:r/ is just the northern variant for the word (I wonder if the word is used somewhere else apart from Donegal).

Peter

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Lúcas
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Username: Lúcas

Post Number: 244
Registered: 01-2004


Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 10:17 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Dobhair, the genitive of dobhar, is sometimes pronounced in Donegal as if it were spelled dobhaí. Gaoth Dobhair literally means "inlet of water" or "estuary."

Mise le meas,

Lúcas
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