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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2006 (March-April) » Archive through April 07, 2006 » Pronounciation help: "Cotuil" « Previous Next »

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Michael Daniels (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 03:26 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I believe it means "shy" and it seems perfect for a young cat we have adopted (yes, on St. Patrick's Day). Any help pronouncing it would certainly be appreciated. Thanks

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 03:36 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I believe the word "cotúil" has more of a negative connonation than positive. It would probably translate more as "self-conscious" than "shy".

There's another word, "cúthail", which would translate more as "bashful", and has a much more positive feel to it.

"cotúil" can be pronounced:

cot tool
("cot" as in the bed a baby sleeps in)
("tool" as in a screwdriver or hammer)


"cúthail" can be pronounced:

coo hill
("coo" rhymes with "who".)
("hill" as in a small mountain.)

(Message edited by Fear_na_mBróg on April 06, 2006)

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Dennis
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Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 07:48 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

FnaB's suggestion is a good one. "Cúthail" is certainly the more common word. Is has a variant, "cúthalach", which is also widely used, if you prefer three syllables and a little rough breathing at the end (like Scottish "loCH", German "aCH", etc.): KOO-huh-luhKH.

I'm not sure, however, that "cotúil" is more negative. They both mean pretty much the same to me: bashful, shy. I wonder if the difference between them is originally more a matter of dialect.
The etymology of "cúthail" is unknown, according to LEIA, and "cotúil" and "cotadh" are not listed.

Dála an scéil, chuir "cúthail" scéal grinn i gcuimhne dom. Féach thíos, sa rannóg lán-Ghaeilge.

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Student of the Dictionary (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 09:42 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

From Ó Dónaill's Foclóir Gaeilge-Bearla (Irish-English Dictionary) we have:

cotúil: Bashful, shy

cútail: 1. Bashful, shy 2. Diffident, modest; quiet
(variations: cúthal(ach), cúthalta)

So, no mention of anything negative with cotúil. Sounds like a good name - congratulations on your new family member!

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Michael Daniels (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 12:06 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Cot tool" she shall be. Thank you all for the information, and the interesting conversation.



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