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Fada
Member Username: Fada
Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 07:54 pm: |
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is maith sin--smashing This one is well known and kinda' nice Could i be right in thinking that the origins of so long could be from the Irish slán i would love to hear your opinions |
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Antaine
Member Username: Antaine
Post Number: 573 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 10:31 pm: |
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slán = so long I have understood it to be no other way |
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Asarlaí
Member Username: Asarlaí
Post Number: 97 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:58 pm: |
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There are many examples of this. One that also springs to mind is smidiríní - smithereens |
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(Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 04:59 pm: |
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cinn ar bith eile? any others? |
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James
Member Username: James
Post Number: 293 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 05:42 pm: |
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Oh, geez...just wait until Dancas sees this one...you'll get hundreds of alleged Irish-isms. I'm nearly certain that these "southernisms" originated from the Irish/Ulster Irish spoken by the Scots Irish immigrants who poured into the southeastern US. Brogan (pronounced like crow but with a "b", and can but with a "g") is a term used in the rural South of my youth to describe a low cut work boot. I suspect this to come from Bróg (Shoe). Shanty describes an old shack as in a fisherman's shanty, and is accepted to derive from Sean Tigh (Old House). To "wail" on someone is to beat them and most certainly originated from the Irish bhuail (hit). To put the Kaibosh on something is to stop it and most surely comes from cáip bás (death cap). Check the spelling on the first word..not sure about that fada. There are others that will come to mind, I'm sure and as they do, I'll add them. Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón.
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Antaine
Member Username: Antaine
Post Number: 576 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:54 pm: |
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don't forget 'galore' |
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Jonathan (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 04:39 am: |
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Céard faoi 'jazz' agus teas? Chualas go raibh nasc eadarthu. |
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Dalta (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 10:35 am: |
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They sound as made up as Dancas's. FRC about that 's by the way |
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James
Member Username: James
Post Number: 295 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:55 pm: |
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The 4 I gave are pretty regulary accepted from the etymology crowd. I can't say the same regarding the Irish link to "jazz". Galore (from go leor) is solid...no question about that from any etymylogic source that I've seen. Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón.
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James
Member Username: James
Post Number: 296 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 01:16 pm: |
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Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón.
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James
Member Username: James
Post Number: 297 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 01:19 pm: |
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Wail used as a colloquial term for beating isn't easily confirmed. However...wailing, as in to cry, is also called keening in the rural south, most especially in Appalachia. This is from the Irish. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=keen Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón.
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James
Member Username: James
Post Number: 298 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 01:21 pm: |
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Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón.
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James
Member Username: James
Post Number: 299 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 01:30 pm: |
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Kaibosh is confirmed http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=irish&searchmode=nl&p=1 These are just a few others that seem legitimate: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=trousers http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=slogan http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=whiskey http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Tory And finally, not exactly etymology in nature but from the same web-site...a joke with a military twist: Irish soldier (shouting from within the brush): I've captured one of the enemy. Captain: Excellent! Bring him here. Soldier: He won't come. Captain: Well, then, you come here. Soldier: I would, but he won't let me. Is minic a bhris beál duine a shrón.
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Antaine
Member Username: Antaine
Post Number: 578 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 08:36 pm: |
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oh, right...I forgot whiskey...to my knowledge there has been no doubt about that one... I cock an eyebrow at the webpage on shanty...I'd never heard anything for it other than sean tigh, and I can accept the notion that words of Irish origin are frequently attributed to other sources through sheer ignorance of Irish (although dancas goes too far, don't start lumping me in there ;-) |
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Fada
Member Username: Fada
Post Number: 4 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 07:12 pm: |
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nothing from Dancas yet....... rud ar bith ó Dhancas go fóill....... go raibh maith agaibh |
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 791 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 07:24 pm: |
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quote:rud ar bith ó Dhancas go fóill....... Slán mar a n-instear é! :-) |
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| Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 08:29 pm: |
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How about... galore= go leor slogan=sluagh ghairm |
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Drochfhuaimniú
Member Username: Drochfhuaimniú
Post Number: 49 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 08:29 pm: |
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That was me sorry 'As long as I don't write about the government, religion, politics, and other institutions, I am free to print anything.' -Beaumarchais
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