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Robert Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 09:44 am: |
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http://www.irishjobs.ie/about/pr.asp?ArtID=1636 more silly nonsense Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I heard the 'native speaker' Aoibhinn Ní Shúilleabháin speak 'as Gaeilge' as they put it, at the Rose of Tralee, and she spoke in her westbrit accent. Does anyone else know if this was the case, or if she is the real deal? |
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Dalta Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 10:29 am: |
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Good development but with a quite hefty load of bolox attached to it aswell. Practically speaking though, this is great. People with Gaeilge can find work now easier, which will increase people with Irish and the use of Irish in the workforce, giving Irish a practical dimension which is what it needs. Might signal the creation of some Irish-only workspaces which could in turn lead to Irish-speaking social groupings. That stuff at the end was pure crap though, I doubt 'Padraig Ó Ceidigh Aer Árann, Gráinne Seoige Sky 1, the comedian Dara Ó Briain and The Rose of Tralee, Aoibhinn Ní Shúilleabháin' got to where they are cause they can speak Irish. I find a conspicious lack of Irish in their shows, those on TV. Stats were interesting too, if they differed from the title to the main body. And Gráinne's on Sky News Ireland, not Sky 1. |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 2418 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 10:42 am: |
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Gráinne Seoige got her start with TnaG. She wouldn't have got it if she weren't an Irish speaker. Padráig Ó Céidigh wouldn't have got involved at all in Aer Arann if he weren't from the Gaeltacht, and interested in community development. Of course they have other talents as well - but bilingualism has been shown to help foster those other talents. |
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Aonghus
Member Username: Aonghus
Post Number: 2419 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 10:44 am: |
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On Irish jobs: http://www.gaelport.com/index.php?page=clippings&id=699 On Bilingualism: The Cognitive Advantages of Balanced Bilingualism (Message edited by aonghus on November 03, 2005) (Message edited by aonghus on November 03, 2005) |
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Mickrua
Member Username: Mickrua
Post Number: 21 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 11:09 am: |
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Are all "talents" just to use the "blas" to get a start and then move to greener pastures.I have respect for Ó Céidigh but as for the others I am not convinced.Most media people go thru the same elocution tutors in Ireland and therefore they all speak in a "West Brit " accent.On the other hand Channel 4, BBC, and ITV promote regional accents and there are many Irish genuine accents to be heard on these channels.i.e Bill Neeley, Andrea Catherwood,Orla Guerin,Feargal keane, Carl Dineen, John Draper.Scots(Andrew Neill,Kirsty Wark,Jon Nicholson) and Welsh(Huw Edwards,Sian Lloyd) accents are also to the fore and there is none of the "snobbery rubbish" that is so prevalent in the media in Ireland .No Wonder that in multichannel land we are watching British TV.Caithfidh mé moladh a thabhairt do TG4 mar bíonn tuairisceoirí as chuile Ghaeltacht ag tógál páirt sa Nuacht ar 7 a chlog tráthnóna.Tá siad ag cur an teanga agus na canúintí ós comhair na tíre agus tá sin ceart. |
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Domhnall
Member Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 293 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 05:39 pm: |
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Spéisiúil ar fad... Herself of trá lí is the real deal. Tá sí bródúil as a cuid Gaeilge - sin an rud is tábhachtaí! Ye they sold out to Béarla - but they still hold on to what is theirs. Pádraig is a legend. He's an entrepreneur and is best friends with my entrepeneurship lecturer, gave us a talk Gael é agus bródúil as. Gráinne left tg4, like others. Her choice. Myself and her sister work for the same company. Nobody in their family uses Béarla when there's so much as a sniff of a Gaeilgeoir around! Indeed i rang her agus i nGaeilge a bhí an comhrá ar fad :) Dara O'Briain he's got his Gaeilge and i've heard him throw in the ODD cúpla focal here and there.. I'm thinkin about gettin him for a gig but that's for another thread. We forgot Maith an Fear - or Maybe not so maith an fear Hector!! He's on some new tv programme to do with rugbaí - doubt he'll be making Gaeilge cool there ;( Another one of my lecturers is a very well known author and she is literally begged to write stuff in English, do interviews in English etc etc. She refuses agus mar gheall ar sin tá meas an domhain agam di. We need more daoine dá leithéid! A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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Robert Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 12:04 pm: |
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"Herself of trá lí is the real deal" Who are we taking about? "Dara O'Briain he's got his Gaeilge and i've heard him throw in the ODD cúpla focal here and there" Well, when he was on 'The Panel' and asked Aoife Ní Thuairsig if, in the coverage of Wimbeldon how they came up with their name for 'love' in tennis, and asked her if 'grá' would be usable. Now you have to a) have no vista on the langauge at all, or b) are a moron to ask such a question. If like there is a new sport from India which uses a word when spoken in english that is like 'time', does that mean TG4 should use 'am' if they were covering it? No, becasue it is obviusly a different word (that is, has a different referent). I don't watch dandy sports so I dont know what TG4 did use for love anyway, tho I hear not 'loiv/loibh' but a word in existance already. "Most media people go thru the same elocution tutors in Ireland and therefore they all speak in a "West Brit " accent" I was at a psychological conference today, and the topics were about the areas that budding psychologists can get into. Two were clinical psychology (those that told the Bishops that 'we can fix your pedophile priests' before letting them out to re-offend ("oh but what an ego trip! We can fix everyones problems!") instead of proper legal action; and consultants, yes those wasters of public money. Shows a knowledge (or rather the misleading idea one knows anything because of it) can do a lot of harm. Elocution teachers are in the same bracket. |
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Duine Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 12:18 pm: |
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From what I remember from the Panel that night, it wasn't him that asked that question, and even if he did, it's being asked in jest as The Panel is fundamentally a comedy show. Last week one them made a joke about how the Irish word for a dentist(fiaclóir) sounds like the name for some cartoon baddy. It does and it was funny! Lighten up! |
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Robert Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 09:11 am: |
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Well, just because I write out something like I did does nto mean I am sitting i a dark room since fuming about it....but it was him who asked the question, and he asked it it seriously |
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Domhnall
Member Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 299 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 12:00 pm: |
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Ye lighten up. Seriously what's the problem with some people on this forum.. One grammar mistake and you're shot. One difference of opinion and the thread has to be cut off. Duine you make sense man - fair play duitse! And if you decide your opinion of somebody because of one tiny little thing like that *Which yes indeed YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT* then maybe you should open your mind and maybe get out and have a life. "or b) are a moron " Right back at ya. A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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Robert Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 12:07 pm: |
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Well Domhnall you are hardly one to crow about been non consonant with others' opinions given your prelidiction. Its not me that has problems with people that are wrong, but since Dara O Briain has been known to be opnionated and woudl point out stupidity if it suited him, I used made the point that his quesition as odd. Anyway, apart from mr O Briain, the other 'comediennes' on the panal are shite. Most Irish 'funny men' are the cat's BOLLOCKS as a case of acute unfunniness |
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Domhnall
Member Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 306 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 06:04 pm: |
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OOOOOHHHHHH! Don't get your knickers in a twist!!!! Just because you can't handle a bit of fun doesn't mean you have to loose your noodle! And there's no point laying an egg over your views on irish 'comediennes'! Seriously man relax the cax!! (",) A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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Robert Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 07:52 am: |
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Hey, I was not been ill with you! Its just they way I wrote it, at the time. |
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Duine Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 09:37 am: |
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Well I do agree that Ed Byrne sucks donkey balls, Robert. |
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Domhnall
Member Username: Domhnall
Post Number: 311 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 09:46 am: |
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That's alright.. It's quite easy to pick things up wrong here... And i'll third that - - He's not funny. At all. BUT - He does have a recognisable name and for some strange reason some people do think he's funny?! A people without a language of its own is only half a nation.A nation should guard its language more than its territories, 'tis a surer barrier and a more important frontier than mountain or river
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