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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2005 (September-October) » Archive through October 21, 2005 » Prepositional pronouns LE + AG « Previous Next »

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Norwegiandame
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Username: Norwegiandame

Post Number: 41
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 05:01 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

The building of this sentence is hard to get:
"Is deacair a rá cé aige a mbeidh an bua" I don't understand why 'aige' is put where it is. I can't really explain why, but it seems so odd to me.

One word that I have seen again and again in sentences with 'le' is 'cuimhne', like: "Ní cuimhne liom an oíche a raibh tú anseo." In my book it says that cuimhne means think, remember etc. Can this verb connected only be used with the prepositional pronoun 'le' in any sentence?

I suppose the following sentence is connected: "Ní dóigh liom go mbeidh an aimsir go maith amáireach." 'dóigh' as far as I know means 'suppose'. Is it the same case here as with 'cuimhne' in my question above?

Can 'le' alone be used in any sentence? (please give an example!)

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 901
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 06:02 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

>The building of this sentence is hard to get:
>"Is deacair a rá cé aige a mbeidh an bua" I don't >understand why 'aige' is put where it is.

Cé aige = to whom.
Cé aige a mbeidh an bua = cé a mbeidh an bua aige = to whom the victory will be.

>"Ní cuimhne liom an oíche a raibh tú anseo." In my book >it says that cuimhne means think, remember etc.

cuimhne isn't a verb, but a noun. It means memory, remembering, etc. Is cuimhne liom = it-is memory with-me = i remember.


>Can this verb connected only be used with the >prepositional pronoun 'le' in any sentence?

It's not a verb. The correspondig verb is "cuimhnigh" = to remember. Cuimhním ar an rud sin = is cuimhne liom an rud sin = I remember that thing.

>I suppose the following sentence is connected: "Ní >dóigh liom go mbeidh an aimsir go maith >amáireach." 'dóigh' as far as I know means 'suppose'.

No, it isn't a verb again, it's a noun: manner, appearance, look, etc. Is dóigh liom = it-is appearance with-me = it looks to me (that) = i think that...

Tír Chonaill abú!

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Aaron
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Username: Aaron

Post Number: 28
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 08:37 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Hey Cecilie,

In TYI, there's a list of these idiomatic phrases:

Is maith liom - I like
Is breá liom - I love
Is fuath liom - I hate
Is féidir liom - I can
Is cuimhin liom - I remember (note the different spelling)
Is dóigh liom (go) - I suppose (that)

And this list goes on... Some use other prepositions:

Tá ocras orm - I'm hungry
Tá tart orm - I'm thirsty

I find it easiest to think of them, arbitrarily, as one big unit:

(Is cuimhin liom) some thing.
(I remember) some thing.
(Who + action) some thing.

"Le" and "liom" contribute to "who".

It's not a very grammatical explanation of it, just a useful way of thinking. And there are about 20 or so listed in TYI. I'll type them up for you when I get a chance.

Ikke at jag vet som jag snakker om... ha det bra!!

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Harrison
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Username: Harrison

Post Number: 30
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 12:39 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

cool, snakker du norsk? Jeg studerer norsk nå og jeg forstår litt. I just started, so I can say only a minimal amount of things. Thats pretty cool, when I saw a thread about other languages people were interested in, nobody really mentioned Norwegian. Anyway, sorry for this not being relevant to the "cuimhne liom" question.

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Robert
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Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 12:16 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Thats OK, as neither is this 'OK' relivant either

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Norwegiandame
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Username: Norwegiandame

Post Number: 42
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 02:28 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Harrison, if you want to talk to me about Norwegian, please send me an e-mail. You'll find my e-mail address above my name. :-)

Thanks for the reply, Lughaidh! I'm beginning to get it now!



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