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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2005 (September-October) » Archive through October 12, 2005 » Teach Yourself Irish « Previous Next »

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Chris_c
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Username: Chris_c

Post Number: 8
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 11:58 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I have been plodding along with first Irish On Your Own, and more recently Learning Irish, for a couple of years now. I hold what I think is a general consensus here that Learning Irish is the most complete course around. However, it's overwhelming for me at times. The concepts aren't that hard, but remembering them and putting them all together is--at least for me.

So, to break up the monotony a bit, I bought Teach Yourself Irish (the newest version) a while back. I haven't had time to get into the meat of it yet, but I read through their fairly small pronunciation and spelling guide at the beginning. Have any of you read it? Personally, I think it's the best explanation that I've ever read about why words are spelled the way they are in Irish and why some vowels are silent in some cases/not in others and why the spelling of Irish words seem so odd at times. Of course, I've read the rules in other texts, but this is the first one that has given me some of the "why's." I tend to remember things better when I understand why they are the way they are, and the author(s) of Teach Yourself Irish did a great job with that, as far as I'm concerned.
Have any of you read through this? Maybe I was asleep when I read through other books that didn't seem to explain it so well.
The rest of the book looks to be a bit more of a "phrasebook" approach... but I thought that prelude was great.

(Message edited by Chris_C on October 03, 2005)

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Mícheál
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 12:31 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I do not think that I have ever made it completely through any of the books that I am using in learning Irish. I tend to jump around a lot and find that when I come back to one it makes more sense to me because of everything else I have been using up to that point. It is not so much the arrangement of the material in each book or other media but the repetition of it all. There are aspects of all of the learning tools that I like and dislike in each. However, it all boils down to having good teachers/mentors and people to converse with on a semi-regular schedule.

P.S. I do like that feature in TYI. I used the book so much it fell apart and I had to buy another one, though, as I said, I never did study it completely through. Come one day ...

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Asarlaí
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Username: Asarlaí

Post Number: 48
Registered: 01-2005


Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 12:32 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

I'm a big fan of Teach yourself Irish. It's got a little of everything that's essential for a beginner. Part pronunciation guide, part grammar book and loads of useful phrases all put together very tidily.

Ádh mór

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Aindréas
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 09-2005


Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 09:14 pm:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Obivously for some people the method works really well, but I was appalled by the book. I'm a hard core grammar, paradigm, make sentences, use everything that you learn kind of person. I can't stand how it teaches you only phrases …

But I used Teach Yourself Russian, very similar style, before I went to Ukraine a couple months back, and it worked really well for how I needed to learn the language. *shrug*

Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde.

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Shirley
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Username: Shirley

Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 06:52 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

hey has anyone studied "ó bhéal an bhab?" I have it in second year in college now so was wondering could i get a hand with it off anyone????????? thanks...

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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus

Post Number: 2156
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 07:41 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Not studied.
I own and enjoy it.

Cuir ceist, agus gheobhar freagra! Ach tosaigh snáth nua, agus cuir ceist i nGaelainn, - gheobhaidh tú freagraí níos fearr.

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Jonas
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Post Number: 796
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 08:02 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

"Not studied.
I own and enjoy it"

Same goes for me, I've own it for some years now. I met Bab herself a couple of times as well while staying in Corca Dhuibhne, really nice person with a lovely voice.

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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus

Post Number: 2159
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 09:39 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a hanam.

Ní bhuail mé lei ach uair amháin, faraor.

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Cionaodh
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Username: Cionaodh

Post Number: 42
Registered: 05-2005


Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 09:42 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

For those who missed it, Bab died earlier this year:
http://www.gaelport.com/index.php?page=clippings&id=231

I don't yet own "Ó Bhéal an Bhab", but will get it soon, as my son & I already enjoy her work on "Rabhlaí Rabhlaí" and "Scéilín ó Bhéilín".

Le meas,
Cionaodh

http://www.gaeilge.org

FRC - Fáilte Roimh Cheartúcháin

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Aonghus
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Username: Aonghus

Post Number: 2162
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 10:03 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Ó Bhéal an Bhab is not so good for children, as it is directed at adults. Not unsuitable, but some of the stories will be boring, and there is none of the spleodar of the other two CDs - no music, sound effects etc. just Gaelainn ghlan Bhab.

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Cionaodh
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Username: Cionaodh

Post Number: 43
Registered: 05-2005


Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 10:30 am:   Small TextLarge TextEdit Post Print Post

Scríobh Aonghus:
>>Ó Bhéal an Bhab is not so good for children,
>>as it is directed at adults. Not unsuitable,
>>but some of the stories will be boring, and
>>there is none of the spleodar of the other
>>two CDs - no music, sound effects etc. just
>>Gaelainn ghlan Bhab.

GRMA; at least I'll enjoy it. And there are precious few audio books i nGaelainn, so I'm glad she got that made before her passing.

Le meas,
Cionaodh

http://www.gaeilge.org

FRC - Fáilte Roimh Cheartúcháin



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