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Cufleadh
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Username: Cufleadh

Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Can anyone tell me how to say "feileacan"?

I have heard it pronounced several ways and I dont know which is correct.

Thanks in advance
Kerri

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Domhnall
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Post Number: 112
Registered: 06-2005


Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I presume you meant to spell that;
féileacán = butterfly ?

If so i'd say

fay - li (as in lick) - kon.

Ní Síocháin Go Saoirse.
Is í slánú na Gaeilge athghabháil na Saoirse

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 705
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Ulster:

/'f´eːl´akan/ (about "FAY-lah-kann")

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Dalta
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Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Lughaidh, how is 'cha/chan/char' pronounced? I heard it pronounced by a Scots Gael speaker and it was a bit different to how I expected, so how is it pronounced in Ulster? And, if you can/know, how would it be pronounced in Munster and Connaught? Also, while I'm bothering you with questions, how is the modh conníollach pronounced in the various dialects? e.g. gheobhadh as opposed to gheobhaidh - is the dh pronounced hard? It seems it would be easy to get it mixed up with the future tense, especially in Connaught where 'dh' isn't really pronounced.

Thanks for the help.

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 706
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Cha, chan, char are pronounced with a soft ch, actually it sounds like an h-. Ha, han, har. In Scotland ch's are harder.

That word has no pronounciation in Connaught and Munster because the word doesn't exist there. It only exists in Donegal.

Gheobhadh is pronounced /jo:x/ in Connemara and Munster (so, as if it were "gheoch") - Remember that in Modern Irish spelling, "eo" is always long, except in three of four words like seo, deoch,... and I don't remember the others.

Gheobhadh is pronounced /jo:u/ in Ulster ("gheo-ú")
(but gheobhadh + sé, sí, sibh is pronounced /jo:t'/ in some places of Connemara and il all Ulster: gheobhadh sé /jo:t's'e/) > "gheoit sé"

Gheobhaidh is /jo:i/ in Ulster before subjects other than pronouns: "gheo-í". Before personal pronouns, gheobhaidh is pronounced /jo:/, "gheo". Gheobhaidh mé /jo: m'a/. "gheo mea"


In Connemara, gheobhaidh is pronounced /jau/ in Cois Fhairrge, /jehə/ in Carna, and also /jofə/ (elsewhere in Connemara?). Source: "An Teanga Bheo, Gaeilge Chonamara".

In Munster: gheobhaidh is /g'o:/ "geo" before pronouns, and /g'o:g'/ "geoig" before other subjects.

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James
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Post Number: 250
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post

féileacán:

In case you don't understand the IPA notations, Fay-lek-ahn (or what Domhnall gave you) will get you close enough to be understood.

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Dalta
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Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Ok, that's great Lughaidh, thanks very much. That's the way I was pronouncing them, so I'm glad with that.



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