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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2005 (July-August) » Archive through August 23, 2005 » Word Spelling Help Needed « Previous Next »

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Hybrid
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Could I please get the proper Irish Gelic spelling for the following two words

1. Pale - like the color is pale
2. Rider - like riding a horse

Thank you in advance for your time and assistance

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Lughaidh
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

1. éadrom
2. marcach

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Aonghus
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Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 05:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post

There are a lot of ways of translating pale.
I lifted the following from http://www.acmhainn.ie

pale a (Col.) meathbhán a

pale blue (Col.) bánghorm a

pale brown (Col.) donn a éadrom

pale brownish (Col.) scothdhonn a éadrom

pale brownish yellow (Col.) donnbhuí a éadrom

pale cream (Col.) bánbhuí a éadrom

pale grey cheeks (Col.) (of bird) leicne mpl bánliatha

pale orange-brown (Col.) buídhonn a éadrom

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Larry
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Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Apacailipsis 6:8

... "D'fhéach mé, agus b’shiúd an t-each báiteach bán agus “An Bás” a ba ainm don mharcach a bhí air..."

..."I looked, and there before me was [a] pale horse and Death was the name of its rider..."

Larry Ackerman

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Maybe they're just dialectal idiosyncrasies... but I don't think:

b' shiúd
a ba

are grammatically correct?

D'fhéach mé, agus ba shiúd an t-each báiteach bán, agus "An Bás" ab ainm don mharacach a bhí air.

I don't know what "siúd" means here.

Just thought of something now: You know how in English, we separate adjectives with commas, eg.

the big, blue, beautiful house

Well do you do that in Irish? My guess would be no as I regularlly would write the likes of:

an teach mór gorm álainn

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Larry
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Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

A chara,

On your first point I can only say that I lifted the quote directly from my copy of An Bíobla Naofa. I used it to illustrate a sentence where the two words "pale" and "rider" appear within a single sentence.

On your second point I agree with you. I do not seperate adjectives, in Irish, with a comma. Nor do I remember anybody else using a comma in those circumstances.

Larry Ackerman

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Aonghus
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Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 04:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I have a strong feeling we discussed Pale Rider before.

Maybe, Caoimhín, we should start an FAQ on such topics?

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Caoimhín
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Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post

An FAQ is certainly needed Aonghus.

A Daltaí volunteer has been working on an board FAQ for a while. Unfortunately given the time limitations that we all have, I wouldn't expect it anytime soon.

Caoimhín

Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam.

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Aonghus
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Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Is fearr déanach ná go brách!

Yes. Indeed. Especially as the answer to many FAQ will be "it depends!" Perhaps it could be put up incrementally?



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