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Robert Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 04:30 am: |
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Hi, does anyone have a correct set of lip shapes to go with vowels and consonants in irish? I know palatised consonants tend to have spread lips, while velarised phonemes have more rounded lips -generally. |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 513 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 03:00 pm: |
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I don't understand your question. What you say is right about the shape of the lips when pronouncing slender and broad consonants. |
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Maidhc_Ó_g
Member Username: Maidhc_Ó_g
Post Number: 45 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 03:45 pm: |
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I remember a post back a while where someone had found a link to some charts showing mouth and tongue positions for different pronunciations. I tried to do a search, but I wasn't able to find it. Does anyone else remember these and could you find them again? |
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Robert Unregistered guest Posted From:
| Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 06:28 am: |
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"I don't understand your question. What you say is right about the shape of the lips when pronouncing slender and broad consonants". What I mean is that, is there a simple linear relationship between phoneme and lip shape, that is, are full velar sounds fully rounded, and fully palatal sounds spread, and other sounds falling somewhere inbetween in a way that one can easily work out? |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 522 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 09:59 am: |
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I can say that at least, bilabial slender sounds are made with spread lips - you can see that when you look at a native speaker who's speaking. Because most of the time, bilabial slender sounds aren't palatalised (as n or t would be), the difference is that you pronounce them with your lips spread, and that they aren't followed by a little "w"-glide as their broad forms are. |
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