Sorry.. I'm a newby and attached this request to another thread...

Hello...

Could anyone help me with a simple translation??

"Peace and Plenty" was our family motto a few hundred years ago.. would it be "Síocháin agus flúirse" or are there some other possibilities ??

And... can any one help me with the pronouciation of
Caomhánach

Thanks :)

michael

"Síth agus Sáith" is possible. "Síth" has an older, more literary ring to it in Irish than today's "síocháin", although "sìth" is still the common word for "peace" in Scottish Gaelic.

Kway-vaw-nach is how I would say Caomhánach.

Maybe:

Síochán agus a neart

It has a nice double meaning of:

Peace and its strength

Dalta > broad c can't be pronounced "kw". It is a velarised c.

Caomhánach in Donegal /'ki:wanah/
Connaught: /'ki:wa:nəx/
Munster /'ke:va:nəx/

Neart: a sufficiency

In Irish American Vernacular "neart" is most often used in the sense of "I made my weekly 'nut'."(Neart: a sufficency.)

In Poker the strongest hand or "power" hand in any given pot is called the "nut" hand or the "nut" cards.

Neart: strength, power.

In old Irish Amer. Vernacular If someone was skilled at something they were often referred to as a "nut." As in "she's a real nut' for the school work." Meaning she had the "neart" (skill, talent) for school.

Neart: skill, talent.

To be a neart (a nut) was most often a good thing in the American breac-Ghaeltachta in 19th and early to mid 20th centuries.

Today, sadly, the old "neart" has been reduced to the whacky "nut."

It's like turning a "bird" (beart, beirt) into a "raspberry."

Most "nuts" were powerful. As in the expression "he fought like a nut" (neart, strength, ability.)

Anyway that's a neart in an English phonetic "nut" shell.

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Síth agus Sáith is very poetic... it has the neart.

conas ata sibh go leir anocht?is mise daltai nua don seirbhis seo,agus nil ach ceist amhain agam a chuir oraibh...ceist ana-shimpli isea freisin,ta fhois agam agus ta bron orm faoi sin,ach cad e an Gaeilge don fhocal "warm" i mBearla?

"te".

So is the Anglicised version of Caoimhín Kevin most likely to come from a Munster prounciation of the name?

what is the verb caomhaigh used for?

Hot water = uisce te
Cold water = uisce fuar
Warm water = uisce alabhog

"alabhog" is "luke warm" or "tepid".

In English, "hot" suggests that something would be too warm, uncomfortably warm. For instance, no one wants to go swimming in a pool of hot water.

The Irish for "hot" is "te".

But... I'm not sure exactly how "te" is used. It seems like they also use it for "warm", and so there's no uncomfortable canontation.

Caoimhín was originally Caomh ghin - and means something like "Beautifully born"

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caomh [aidiacht den chéad díochlaonadh]
séimh, deas; álainn.

gin [ainmfhocal baininscneach den dara díochlaonadh]
saolú duine; duine saolaithe, páiste, sliocht (gin mhic, iníne).

The verb means to conserve:
caomhnú [ainm briathartha][ainmfhocal firinscneach]
coinneáil slán, cosaint (teanga, rún, a chaomhnú).
caomhnaigh (caomhnú)

(Message edited by aonghus on July 29, 2005)

"In English, "hot" suggests that something would be too warm, uncomfortably warm. For instance, no one wants to go swimming in a pool of hot water."

I wouldn't agree with that, I would use hot as comfortably warm, e.g. a nice hot bath/shower, a hot day. Another example is when describing a particularly good-looking person, don't think have a nice looking person wrapped around you would be uncomfortable ;) I'ld say "roasting" if uncomforably hot and the context generally tells.

Speaking of wrap-arounds, English footballers 'roast' too. Can be uncomfortably hot, apparently.

"In English, "hot" suggests that something would be too warm, uncomfortably warm. For instance, no one wants to go swimming in a pool of hot water."




In English AND Irish if something is hot (te) it is also Teasai/, "hot, warm, exciting, pasionate, feverish,, or angry" carring a charge of of everything from sexual heat to natural excitement to fever to sizzling anger.

A hot person can be sexy, warm, snazzy, jazzy, angry, or passionate.

Someone who is very teasai/ or lusty or filled "with animal spirits" is a "teasbach" or a "jazzbo."