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Diarmo
Member Username: Diarmo
Post Number: 125 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 10:24 am: |
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just two examples of two verbs with f in the middle of them! but why is it that they there at all? was the middle f in feicfidh pronounced in the past? and the same question for deirfinn! |
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Dennis
Member Username: Dennis
Post Number: 63 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 01:55 pm: |
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The -f- can be thought of as a future/conditional "flag", popping up between the verb root and the future or conditional ending of 1st congutation verbs. Sometimes it's called the "future stem" (the "conditional" used to be called "the secondary future"). In Old Irish the -f- was pronounced as /f/. For learners, this -f- can be a handy diagnostic tool, since it reliably lets them know that the verb form is either future or conditional. |
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Fear_na_mbróg
Member Username: Fear_na_mbróg
Post Number: 584 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 02:57 pm: |
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I've heard many people pronounce the "f" in the following: Dhúnfainn Dhúnfá Bhrisfinn Bhrisfeá Not sure if you're "allowed" though. |
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Lughaidh
Member Username: Lughaidh
Post Number: 384 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 06:49 pm: |
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It depends on dialect: in Munster the f is pronounced most of the time (as an /f/). In Connemara you say /h/ most of the time, and in Donegal, always /h/ except in the only verb "tchífidh" (=future of "feic") in which it's pronounced /f/ everywhere (except in parts of Gweedore). |
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