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The Daltaí Boards » Archive: 2005- » 2005 (May-June) » Archive through June 08, 2005 » Almost-beginner grammar « Previous Next »

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Lovetheirish
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Username: Lovetheirish

Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post

It seems the Irish don't like infinitives. So what's
the most appropriate way to convey "I hope to go to .. or
I plan to .. ". Would you say 'Ta suil a bheith go
Sligeach' or 'Ta suil agam ag dul go .. ?

Go mo leithsceal, but I can't deal with fadas fos.

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 1535
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Tá súil agam dul go Sligeach

Tá sé i gceist agam dul go Sligeach (I plan to)

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Username: Fear_na_mbróg

Post Number: 561
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Or another form:

I'll be hoping for a letter from you

Beidh mé ag súil le litir uait

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I'll be = Beidh mé
hoping = ag súil
for a letter = le litir
from you = uait

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 342
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I would say "tá súil agam go rachaidh mé go Sligeach", or "tá mé ag súil le dul go Sligeach".

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 1546
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post

"tá mé ag súil le dul go Sligeach". - To me, that implies you are definitely going to Sligo, and you are looking forward to it.

Whereas "Tá súil agam dul go Sligeach" means you're not certain you will go.

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Fear_na_mbróg
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Post Number: 564
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Sort of like the difference between:

I'm looking forward to departing to Sligo
I'm looking forward to a departure to Sligo

The former is more definite, much more suggestive that it's definitely going to take place. The latter is more... grab it when the opportunity comes.

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Lughaidh
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Post Number: 346
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

>"tá mé ag súil le dul go Sligeach". - To me, that >implies you are definitely going to Sligo, and you are >looking forward to it.

>Whereas "Tá súil agam dul go Sligeach" means you're not >certain you will go.

To me, what i've given is right (i've heard it in the Gaeltacht and you can find it in O Dónaill’s dictionary, under "súil"), i've never heard the structure you've given: bheith ag súil + verbal noun, and it sounds odd to me, but of course i may be wrong. At least i'm sure that what i've given is right. Have you some proof that your structure is right? Thanx

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Aonghus
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Post Number: 1553
Registered: 08-2004


Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 05:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post

quote:

Have you some proof that your structure is right?



Rachaidh mé sa tóir air.

Tá "tá súil agam" coitianta go maith, ach ní mé an cruthú ar chruinneas é sin!

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-41,G GLD:en&q=t%C3%A1+s%C3%BAil+agam



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